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[Gareth]

The big worry to me is that our owners just get fed up with not being able to compete on a level playing field and just say fuck it we're out of here.

Yep !
Include Unai in that.

Imagine we lose the first 3/4 games I’d imagine a lot of our fan base will also conveniently forget that that we are trying to compete at the top of the hardest league under pathetic restrictions & turn on Unai and his playing style anyway.

The expectations created by the last 3 years is a million miles from the optimism levels at the moment which is kind of sad when the season starts tomorrow

[Chris Smith]

The big worry to me is that our owners just get fed up with not being able to compete on a level playing field and just say fuck it we're out of here.

Yep !
Include Unai in that.

On the other hand they should know the rules and the implications of breaking them. It would be a pretty shoddy thing to do to leave us in the lurch like that.

Not that I think they will, not least because they may struggle to get a decent return on their investment given the amount they’ve put into the non-playing side plus any potential buyer will be well aware of the UEFA restrictions.

[AV82EC]

They won't. They'll battle on for a good while yet. We're a great side, in the best League of the most popular sport in the world. We've finished 4the, 6th and 7th in the last three years, reached a Cup Semi Final, a Conference League Semi Final and a Champions League Quarter Final. Most clubs can only dream of that.

We just need to keep banging on the door, and we will win something again one day.

Fully agree with this. Yes it’s hard to compete but fuck me some of the negative Nelly takes on here this summer you’d think we’re in a battle to stay in the League.

[john e]

The big worry to me is that our owners just get fed up with not being able to compete on a level playing field and just say fuck it we're out of here.

Yep !
Include Unai in that.

Imagine we lose the first 3/4 games I’d imagine a lot of our fan base will also conveniently forget that that we are trying to compete at the top of the hardest league under pathetic restrictions & turn on Unai and his playing style anyway.

The expectations created by the last 3 years is a million miles from the optimism levels at the moment which is kind of sad when the season starts tomorrow

I shall be ripping my season ticket up in front of the dugout if that happens in a total overreaction
well jumping on my mobile device opened on my wallet app

[PeterWithe]

I was actually just thinking that. I know he comes across as someone who thrives on a challenge but even he may get fed up of having to sell a decent player season.

Yup, it is a worry although I console myself with the thought that he's spent most of his career at clubs where that is the case.

[Gareth]

The big worry to me is that our owners just get fed up with not being able to compete on a level playing field and just say fuck it we're out of here.

Yep !
Include Unai in that.

Imagine we lose the first 3/4 games I’d imagine a lot of our fan base will also conveniently forget that that we are trying to compete at the top of the hardest league under pathetic restrictions & turn on Unai and his playing style anyway.

The expectations created by the last 3 years is a million miles from the optimism levels at the moment which is kind of sad when the season starts tomorrow

I shall be ripping my season ticket up in front of the dugout if that happens in a total overreaction
well jumping on my mobile device opened on my wallet app

Brilliant John

[VILLA MOLE]

The big worry to me is that our owners just get fed up with not being able to compete on a level playing field and just say fuck it we're out of here.

Yep !
Include Unai in that.

Imagine we lose the first 3/4 games I’d imagine a lot of our fan base will also conveniently forget that that we are trying to compete at the top of the hardest league under pathetic restrictions & turn on Unai and his playing style anyway.

The expectations created by the last 3 years is a million miles from the optimism levels at the moment which is kind of sad when the season starts tomorrow

I shall be ripping my season ticket up in front of the dugout if that happens in a total overreaction
well jumping on my mobile device opened on my wallet app

oooh you bloody show off with your ticket turning up on the app !!

[Brend'Watkins]

Apologies if this has already been posted up on the thread.

These are the rules explained for dummies. If I get it now then so will you all.

Here's what this UEFA settlement means for #AVFC  in simple terms:

We broke their spending rules and now face a 3-year punishment period that will severely limit our transfer activity.

The basics: Villa spent too much relative to our income in 2023/24. UEFA particularly scrutinized our player swap deals (think Douglas Luiz-Iling Junior exchange - Dobbin-Tim / Maatsen - Kellyman ) and made specific adjustments to our finances.

The targets we must hit:
•2025/26: Maximum €5m loss
•2026/27: Break even (€0 loss)
•2027/28: Full compliance with spending rules

Miss these targets by more than €20m and we're banned from European competition for three seasons. That's the nuclear option.

The transfer restrictions hurt most: We can only register new players for European competition if we sell players worth more than we spend. So if we sell for €40m, we can only spend €40m on replacements.

This applies unconditionally next season, then conditionally based on whether we hit our financial targets.

The fines: €5m guaranteed, plus up to €15m more if we miss targets. Could reach €20m total if we mess up badly.

What this means practically: Villa must become a selling club short-term. No more £50m Onana signings without major sales first.

The good news: If we comply early (hit targets by 2026), we can exit the settlement regime ahead of schedule. Miss by small amounts and penalties scale proportionally.

Bottom line: Villa's transfer strategy is in handcuffs for three years. Every signing must be balanced by sales, every target must be hit, or we face European exile.

[andyh]

^^
Thanks for that. It clearly shows the difficulty we are in and that things really are as drastic as some of us think.

[PeterWithe]

Apologies if I've missed an explanation but...if we've sold JJ for £40m, does that mean we can only spend the £40m?

Or can the outgoing £40m be split across the terms of incoming player contracts as it is for the domestic FFP rules?

[ozzjim]

I'm wondering whether we'd have been better talking a season ban from Europe and just spending more. With the age of some of the squad, this will make the next 3 seasons totally void of anything other than surviving.

[Brazilian Villain]

Aston Villa have been fined £125k after accepting we breached the Premier League's multiball rules in five matches last season. https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1956297389989335373

Meanwhile, over at the Etihad....

[Drummond]

Fined and banned for 3 games from using the system the Premier League want every club to use.....

[PeterWithe]

What's Multiball then? Apart from fucking expensive

[Sexual Ealing]

What's Multiball then? Apart from fucking expensive

I think it's what we used to fire a ball across Nyland's goal when he carried the original over the line in that Sheff U game.