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Offline rougegorge

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5100 on: Today at 04:16:47 PM »
Ah I can see this is also being debated on the Ozcan thread...

Offline tomd2103

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5101 on: Today at 04:36:03 PM »
Uefa SCR is much more damaging than PSR is.

Particularly to us given our wage bill / turnover ratio.  I think it's much more restrictive than PSR.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5102 on: Today at 04:38:24 PM »
Uefa SCR is much more damaging than PSR is.

Particularly to us given our wage bill / turnover ratio.  I think it's much more restrictive than PSR.

Yes, definitely. We’ve pissed PSR by selling the women’s team and the Villa-Everton-Chelsea shenanigans. Unfortunately UEFA don’t take these into account.

The Warehouse might not fly with UEFA either.

Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5103 on: Today at 04:46:08 PM »
As I've mentioned a few times, Chelsea have effectively deferred things for a year. If you look at the actual reports here - https://www.uefa.com/running-competitions/integrity/club-financial-control-body/ - section 3 covers the difference. For us for 25/26 we have:

In the 2025/26 season, the Club will have a maximum Football Earnings deficit of
EUR 5 million for the reporting period ending in 2025 (“2025 Target”)

For Chelsea that line is for 2026 and instead they have:

In the 2025/26 season, the Club will have a maximum Football Earnings deficit for the
reporting period ending in 2025 equivalent to the projected deficit submitted in the
business plan (“2025 Target”)

So basically they are under 'watch' for an extra year but have been able to negotiate a much bigger potential loss this year as a result.

On top of that they've been given their annual Arsenal subsidy, whereas we're struggling to make sales.

Offline rougegorge

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5104 on: Today at 05:06:58 PM »
As I've mentioned a few times, Chelsea have effectively deferred things for a year. If you look at the actual reports here - https://www.uefa.com/running-competitions/integrity/club-financial-control-body/ - section 3 covers the difference. For us for 25/26 we have:

In the 2025/26 season, the Club will have a maximum Football Earnings deficit of
EUR 5 million for the reporting period ending in 2025 (“2025 Target”)

For Chelsea that line is for 2026 and instead they have:

In the 2025/26 season, the Club will have a maximum Football Earnings deficit for the
reporting period ending in 2025 equivalent to the projected deficit submitted in the
business plan (“2025 Target”)

So basically they are under 'watch' for an extra year but have been able to negotiate a much bigger potential loss this year as a result.

On top of that they've been given their annual Arsenal subsidy, whereas we're struggling to make sales.
Thanks for the summary - they know how to play it. I guess they could almost just keep paying fines if they wanted to and they'd probably be able to withstand missing a European season as well somehow if they had to. 
They will still need to offload some players as they are still bound by the rule about not registering 'any new player on its List A to UEFA club competitions unless the List A Transfer Balance is positive'. They do have a lot of players they can sell though -  starting with Dewsbury-Hall.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5105 on: Today at 07:30:33 PM »
Can we defer it if still in trouble next season?

Online VillaTim

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5106 on: Today at 09:49:55 PM »
How are Chelsea getting around all this?
By cooking the books .
9 year contracts for players .
Selling hotels for above MV
Selling women's team before the loopehole closed , again way above MV

Online ChicagoLion

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5107 on: Today at 09:53:23 PM »
How are Chelsea getting around all this?
By cooking the books .
9 year contracts for players .
Selling hotels for above MV
Selling women's team before the loopehole closed , again way above MV
As has been mentioned plenty of times, they have also been excellent at trading players.

Online VillaTim

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5108 on: Today at 09:55:54 PM »
How are Chelsea getting around all this?
By cooking the books .
9 year contracts for players .
Selling hotels for above MV
Selling women's team before the loopehole closed , again way above MV
As has been mentioned plenty of times, they have also been excellent at trading players.
Winning that trophy and qualifying for the ECL helps too . They have a whole army of players to trade which helps too .

Offline DC1874

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5109 on: Today at 10:22:53 PM »
It's true they are top of player sales? That + WCC win is about £300M And Ithey don't even have a shirt sponsor?!

 


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