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Re: FFP
« Reply #5010 on: July 29, 2025, 09:15:59 PM »
Words from a Geordie... https://x.com/thekickofftg/status/1949883431329919141?t=cQqwCs8TixGVRsFekkZ5aQ&s=19
spot on, but, he probably wouldn't be moaning if Isak wasn't on the way out, or his owners had no money, he's bound to be frustrated sa NUFC have rich owners who now have their hands tied


Yeah, you cannot have Newcastles owners being able to spend what they could but then you have the top 4 sewn up with the money they have spent.

So would we.

Man City
Geordies
Us


Just hosing cash.

Newcastle could blow us and City out of the water, their potential wealth is ridiculous. They could pay what they want and pay the wages without breaking sweat.

So a bit like now then in real terms with the clubs who made hay while the sun shone (and. The rules didn’t apply).

…and now it’s a closed shop.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5011 on: July 29, 2025, 09:19:48 PM »
I'm actually surprised there hasn't been any "loans" from the Saudi teams to Newcastle.
If Isaac goes to Saudi that's a conflict of interest/ insider trading  .

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5012 on: July 29, 2025, 10:04:13 PM »
I'm actually surprised there hasn't been any "loans" from the Saudi teams to Newcastle.
If Isaac goes to Saudi that's a conflict of interest/ insider trading  .

Why?

They can sell him to Liverpool for a huge amount of money, there's no need to engage in any skullduggery with SA.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5013 on: July 29, 2025, 10:24:24 PM »
And if he went there for £130mil, then that is market value. If he went for £200mil, then that would be fishy.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5014 on: Today at 08:52:04 AM »
There needs to be some form of spending control. Just not this form. There is nothing wrong with the concept, it is the execution that is wrong.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5015 on: Today at 09:06:57 AM »
There needs to be some form of spending control. Just not this form. There is nothing wrong with the concept, it is the execution that is wrong.

Indeed. We like to imagine that a total bonfire of spending controls would result in a Villa golden age, but it would actually just free up Man City and Newcastle to outspend everyone by such orders of magnitude it would turn the league into the SPL.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5016 on: Today at 09:09:40 AM »
It might be easier/more effective to focus on squad sizes rather than finances. As far as I know, there's no financial instrument to make it look like you have fewer people sitting on your bench.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5017 on: Today at 09:19:36 AM »
The biggest problem with it is that it simply hasn’t moved with the times.  They’ve still got caps in place since 2012.  Prices have moved on.  Which is why I though Nas’s suggestion that the cap moves up to £135m was a sensible one. 

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5018 on: Today at 09:37:12 AM »
Revenue sharing is the obvious way forward. No problem with matching spending to revenue if everyone has the same revenue.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5019 on: Today at 09:57:51 AM »
Which will never happen.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5020 on: Today at 09:58:38 AM »
It happens in the most selfish and anti-sharing country in the world.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5021 on: Today at 10:04:32 AM »
It can happen in the US because there's little to no competition for their main sports. If the PL did anything like salary caps etc then players would just fuck off to a different league for more money.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5022 on: Today at 10:07:11 AM »
The biggest problem with it is that it simply hasn’t moved with the times.  They’ve still got caps in place since 2012.  Prices have moved on.  Which is why I though Nas’s suggestion that the cap moves up to £135m was a sensible one.

All that would do would push up the cost of being in the PL and widen the gap to the Championship further.
If the controls are meant to ensure clubs remain stable then there need to be controls on liquidity and leverage, not just an arbitrary loss value.
SCR is better imo but it still results in the haves pulling up the drawbridge and the have nots scrabbling around outside.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5023 on: Today at 10:07:30 AM »
It can happen in the US because there's little to no competition for their main sports. If the PL did anything like salary caps etc then players would just fuck off to a different league for more money.

Agreed. Which is why we need international socialism.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5024 on: Today at 10:07:38 AM »
It happens in the most selfish and anti-sharing country in the world.

And yet Zenit still win almost every year.

 


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