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Offline Mister E

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4845 on: June 30, 2025, 09:35:39 PM »
Here’s another classic:

https://x.com/justin_avfc_/status/1939624793084399722?
That bloke irritates me a bit. He seems far to long in the tooth to be doing the whole YouTube self-publicising thing.
Fcukin' ageist!!😁😁

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4846 on: June 30, 2025, 09:49:57 PM »
Here’s another classic:

https://x.com/justin_avfc_/status/1939624793084399722?
That bloke irritates me a bit. He seems far to long in the tooth to be doing the whole YouTube self-publicising thing.
Fcukin' ageist!!😁😁
So are we saying that YouTubers need to be of a certain age to relevant or indeed be allowed to post?
He's done some decent stuff with Kevin Gage and Garry Thompson tbf.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4847 on: June 30, 2025, 10:37:17 PM »
Oh, and if The Warehouse sale goes through successfully, should we be buying up more local real estate and doing it up? I hope so.
It would make sense to buy the Aston hotel on the island near Tesco . Wonderful historic building and great location

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4848 on: June 30, 2025, 10:47:15 PM »
Reading the Guardian’s report on the sale of the women’s team and PSR. Nothing I didn’t already know and then, towards the end of the article, the statement that “Villa’s run to the last 16 of the Champions League earned about £100m”!!!!!

It was the last 8, you ignorant fucking “Big 6” loving ******!!

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4849 on: June 30, 2025, 10:49:09 PM »
It really amazes me that ‘you tube’ wanna be accountants have our bleak future all figured out year on year only to be made to look like the absolute mugs they really are year on year by our astute owners. 

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4850 on: June 30, 2025, 11:09:48 PM »
Bardell was amongst the worst of all them at the start of the window. It might have been the most depressing podcasts. You’d think we just went down. He positions himself as an ITK with all his “spoke to xxxx in the industry” bollocks. And yet here we are.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4851 on: June 30, 2025, 11:10:38 PM »
It really amazes me that ‘you tube’ wanna be accountants have our bleak future all figured out year on year only to be made to look like the absolute mugs they really are year on year by our astute owners.

Amazing isn't it that the professionals that the club employ to deal with this kind of thing have a better grasp of it than YouTubers who don't have access to the full details. 

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4852 on: July 01, 2025, 04:32:16 AM »
It really amazes me that ‘you tube’ wanna be accountants have our bleak future all figured out year on year only to be made to look like the absolute mugs they really are year on year by our astute owners.

Amazing isn't it that the professionals that the club employ to deal with this kind of thing have a better grasp of it than YouTubers who don't have access to the full details.
exactly.


Sadly the world is now full of social media tarts who’s only reason for existence is” look at me, aren’t I great” even if they have to make stuff up in an attempt to be relevant.

Offline jwarry

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4853 on: July 01, 2025, 06:23:20 AM »
In The Times today

Villa to sell women's team to parent company to help comply with PSR
Club follow Chelsea's strategy after recording losses of £195m over the past two years and missing out on qualification for Champions League
 
Aston Villa are set to sell their women's team to their parent company in a move that would help them comply with the Premier League's financial rules.

The Times reported in April that Villa were considering selling stakes in their women's team, and it is now understood that the club plan to effectively sell 90 per cent of it to themselves, with the strategy echoing a transaction made by Chelsea last year.

The 90 per cent stake would be bought by V Sports, Villa's parent company owned by Wes Edens and the Villa chairman, Nassef Sawiris. The other 10 per cent would be sold to an external investor, potentially from the United States. Any deal would need Premier League approval.

The value of the sale of Villa's women's team, who finished sixth in the WSL, remains unknown, but the involvement of US investors in buying a stake could also be significant in terms of securing Premier League agreement to the valuation.

Villa recorded a £195million loss over the past two years, placing them at risk of breaching the Premier League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR). A loss of more than £105million over three seasons
constitutes a PSR breach, so selling the women's team could provide Villa with crucial funds.

Villa unsuccessfully attempted to have the PSR limit raised to £135million in June 2024 and Sawiris told the Financial Times that month that the rules “do not make sense”. Their failure to qualify for next season's Champions League has denied them a lucrative revenue stream.

Villa would be the second Premier League club to effectively sell their women's team to themselves. Chelsea sold their women's team to their holding company for £200million last June, though that transaction has still to be approved in terms of value. However, the purchase of 8 per cent of the women's team by Alexis Ohanian, the American entrepreneur and husband of Serena Williams, puts the value considerably higher than £200million according to Chelsea insiders, which should help considerably in the Premier League's valuation process.

The Premier League allows the sale of “fixed tangible assets” to clubs' parent or sister companies and for the paper profits of those sales to be used for PSR purposes.

It disputes that these are loopholes because all deals have to ratified by the league as being of fair market value and it can oblige clubs to reduce the sale price, as it did with Chelsea selling two hotels to a sister company where the original value of the deal — £76.5million — was reduced to £70.5million.

Nevertheless, Uefa does not allow such transactions between sister companies to be registered as income for its financial system. As revealed by The Times, both Villa and Chelsea have breached Uefa's limits for last season and are close to agreeing financial penalties.
Villa declined to comment. 

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4854 on: July 01, 2025, 07:37:37 AM »
We don't know, of course, what the club have done in the background. They may have sold the women's team, The Warehouse, sponsorship etc and just not announced it yet.

No firesale though. We may have been frantically trying to sell players at the right money and not been successful, so took a different route. We'll find out one day.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4855 on: July 01, 2025, 08:45:29 AM »
Reading the Guardian’s report on the sale of the women’s team and PSR. Nothing I didn’t already know and then, towards the end of the article, the statement that “Villa’s run to the last 16 of the Champions League earned about £100m”!!!!!

It was the last 8, you ignorant fucking “Big 6” loving ******!!

When they previewed the quarter final second leg games they didn't even bother mentioning our game with PSG. Wankers!

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4856 on: July 01, 2025, 09:16:26 AM »
Im not a big fan of all this wheeling and dealing - but at the end of the day - I think we had little choice.   If the playing field isnt level then we need to make it level in anyway we can.

The rules make little sense, and penalise clubs in growth phases while protect them in decline phases.  At the very least it always us to sell any players we are going to sell at market value.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4857 on: July 01, 2025, 09:32:29 AM »
I'd rather that, to start off with, we sell the McGregor statue to V Sport for £110M.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4858 on: July 01, 2025, 12:55:05 PM »
Oh, and if The Warehouse sale goes through successfully, should we be buying up more local real estate and doing it up? I hope so.
It would make sense to buy the Aston hotel on the island near Tesco . Wonderful historic building and great location

Full HMO i am afraid - so not for sale

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4859 on: July 01, 2025, 04:31:36 PM »
https://youtu.be/SCnaMMhKR6A?si=t1_xdXS0wGUmXpm6

Simon Jordan talking sense on the ridiculousness of the PSR rules and why they were introduced

 


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