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Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4560 on: June 11, 2025, 05:22:17 PM »
I believe Borson more than McGuire based on what I've heard. The latter does talk about us a lot. I suppose we will find out soon enough. Club has been very quiet on all fronts.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4561 on: June 11, 2025, 05:28:07 PM »
You can find out yourself if you like. All Villa’s accounts are available at Companies House, and the PSR rules are on the Premier League website.

You do have to supply your own calculator, though!

Just remember, there are more clicks in scaremongering than there are in supplying actual facts and reason.

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4562 on: June 11, 2025, 05:38:35 PM »
There are probably a lot more clicks on scaremongering about Man U or Liverpool. As for why we are getting more press about FFP issues than anyone else? The most obvious reason is usually the correct one. We have more FFP issues than anyone else.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4563 on: June 11, 2025, 05:39:29 PM »
Ok.  ::)

Offline Villatillidie25

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4564 on: June 11, 2025, 05:43:29 PM »
The original intent of you decide to believe it was to ensure clubs spent within their means. And not go broke or almost by being stupid like Leeds, Portsmouth etc. The other intent, a more skeptical view is that at the top end it allowed PL to protect its interests and not have their “big 6” breakaway into a Super league, which then goes to the same “intent” at UEFA. I don’t know that either fully expected the gap to become this big and more importantly that it stopped new clubs breaking in. Almost literally.

I don’t believe the original intent. I believe it was entirely the latter.

And what was the rationale for the other 14 clubs signing up to it? Or are the Big 6 just smarter and sneakier than everyone else and tricked all the other billionaire owners into thinking it was for financial prudence when it was actually to create a financial locked shop?

Offline DB

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4565 on: June 11, 2025, 07:16:54 PM »
The original intent of you decide to believe it was to ensure clubs spent within their means. And not go broke or almost by being stupid like Leeds, Portsmouth etc. The other intent, a more skeptical view is that at the top end it allowed PL to protect its interests and not have their “big 6” breakaway into a Super league, which then goes to the same “intent” at UEFA. I don’t know that either fully expected the gap to become this big and more importantly that it stopped new clubs breaking in. Almost literally.

I don’t believe the original intent. I believe it was entirely the latter.

And what was the rationale for the other 14 clubs signing up to it? Or are the Big 6 just smarter and sneakier than everyone else and tricked all the other billionaire owners into thinking it was for financial prudence when it was actually to create a financial locked shop?

I think they were worried that Newcastle with all their potential wealth would just walk over every other club and win everything, paying ridiculous prices for players.

Offline Olneythelonely

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4566 on: June 11, 2025, 08:22:38 PM »
The original intent of you decide to believe it was to ensure clubs spent within their means. And not go broke or almost by being stupid like Leeds, Portsmouth etc. The other intent, a more skeptical view is that at the top end it allowed PL to protect its interests and not have their “big 6” breakaway into a Super league, which then goes to the same “intent” at UEFA. I don’t know that either fully expected the gap to become this big and more importantly that it stopped new clubs breaking in. Almost literally.

I don’t believe the original intent. I believe it was entirely the latter.

And what was the rationale for the other 14 clubs signing up to it? Or are the Big 6 just smarter and sneakier than everyone else and tricked all the other billionaire owners into thinking it was for financial prudence when it was actually to create a financial locked shop?

For a starter, only 14 have to agree. Doesn’t have to be agreed by all 20 clubs and wasn’t. Some wanted to retain powerful position. Some didn’t want another 3/4 clubs joining them. Then there is us, Newcastle, Forest etc.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4567 on: June 11, 2025, 08:51:30 PM »
The reason they gave and the intent could be 2 different things.
I think what actually happened is that it started with trying to restrict financial prolificacy but ended up as something entirely different.
Sometimes unintended consequences can become exploited and embedded.

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4568 on: June 11, 2025, 09:45:38 PM »
I’m trusting that bloke on tik-tok. He seems to have thought of stuff that has been overlooked or at least not mentioned elsewhere.

Online eamonn

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4569 on: June 12, 2025, 09:02:46 AM »
Who, Spud-man in Tamworth? He knows eff-all about the Villa and football finances  :(

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4570 on: June 12, 2025, 10:52:09 AM »
Who, Spud-man in Tamworth? He knows eff-all about the Villa and football finances  :(

No, definitely not.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4571 on: June 12, 2025, 11:26:07 AM »
Just seen the SSN clip.

Perception based analysis. Always my favourite type of guesswork.

It's because our wage/income was 91%- never mind that income has dramatically increased.

It's because we spent so much in the past. Never mind our net spend since 2022 is £82m.

They can fuck off.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4572 on: June 12, 2025, 11:54:16 AM »
Just seen the SSN clip.

Perception based analysis. Always my favourite type of guesswork.

It's because our wage/income was 91%- never mind that income has dramatically increased.

It's because we spent so much in the past. Never mind our net spend since 2022 is £82m.

They can fuck off.

From memory a decent attitude towards all of Sky in general

Offline Paul.S

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4573 on: June 12, 2025, 04:15:53 PM »
Just seen the SSN clip.

Perception based analysis. Always my favourite type of guesswork.

It's because our wage/income was 91%- never mind that income has dramatically increased.

It's because we spent so much in the past. Never mind our net spend since 2022 is £82m.

They can fuck off.

The day they lose the football will fill me with joy.
I stopped paying for it a while ago because I’m not interested in the constant rolling news of the same few clubs. It’s exactly the same with talkshite.

Offline IFWaters

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4574 on: June 13, 2025, 07:05:00 AM »
Just seen the SSN clip.

Perception based analysis. Always my favourite type of guesswork.

It's because our wage/income was 91%- never mind that income has dramatically increased.

It's because we spent so much in the past. Never mind our net spend since 2022 is £82m.

They can fuck off.

The day they lose the football will fill me with joy.
I stopped paying for it a while ago because I’m not interested in the constant rolling news of the same few clubs. It’s exactly the same with talkshite.
Talkshite is owned by Sky.

 


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