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Offline Mellin

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2685 on: June 05, 2024, 09:14:05 PM »
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See for example the deeply cynical Trumpian framing, the idea that this is a battle being fought against “the elites”. Here we have a richer-than-god inherited monarchy, owners of the most powerful football club in the world, somehow presenting themselves as outsiders. When will the boundlessly rich kings and princes of the overclass finally be allowed to take a seat at the top table? Other than now, and for ever, in every single sphere of life?

Barney Ronay hitting nail square on head here.

Rancid.

Offline Stu

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2686 on: June 05, 2024, 09:18:30 PM »
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See for example the deeply cynical Trumpian framing, the idea that this is a battle being fought against “the elites”. Here we have a richer-than-god inherited monarchy, owners of the most powerful football club in the world, somehow presenting themselves as outsiders. When will the boundlessly rich kings and princes of the overclass finally be allowed to take a seat at the top table? Other than now, and for ever, in every single sphere of life?

Barney Ronay hitting nail square on head here.

Rancid.

Article: Manchester City’s Trumpian tactics spotlight autocratic creep in football

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2687 on: June 05, 2024, 09:26:10 PM »
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See for example the deeply cynical Trumpian framing, the idea that this is a battle being fought against “the elites”. Here we have a richer-than-god inherited monarchy, owners of the most powerful football club in the world, somehow presenting themselves as outsiders. When will the boundlessly rich kings and princes of the overclass finally be allowed to take a seat at the top table? Other than now, and for ever, in every single sphere of life?

Barney Ronay hitting nail square on head here.

Rancid.

Article: Manchester City’s Trumpian tactics spotlight autocratic creep in football

without reading it (I will) does it basically say they are using the Trump tactic of deny, deny, deny, followed by deflect and project, combined with appeal everything to slow it all down?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2688 on: June 05, 2024, 09:45:06 PM »
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At least three clubs (Chelsea, Villa, Newcastle) have sympathy for Manchester City & their war on Premier League.

Yeuch.

Offline Stu

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2689 on: June 05, 2024, 09:45:20 PM »
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See for example the deeply cynical Trumpian framing, the idea that this is a battle being fought against “the elites”. Here we have a richer-than-god inherited monarchy, owners of the most powerful football club in the world, somehow presenting themselves as outsiders. When will the boundlessly rich kings and princes of the overclass finally be allowed to take a seat at the top table? Other than now, and for ever, in every single sphere of life?

Barney Ronay hitting nail square on head here.

Rancid.

Article: Manchester City’s Trumpian tactics spotlight autocratic creep in football

without reading it (I will) does it basically say they are using the Trump tactic of deny, deny, deny, followed by deflect and project, combined with appeal everything to slow it all down?

"Allow hyper-ambitious nation states to buy your sporting institutions, and, well, you might just end up with an unhappy hyper-ambitious nation state on your hands. Not to mention a sense that nobody, right now, has any kind of control over how this ends up.

More immediately, scanning down the public details of City’s legal claim, it is hard to decide which is the most nauseating aspect of the whole affair. Perhaps it is the ragbag of populism and hot-button shouting tagged on by City’s lawyers and mouthpieces.

See for example the deeply cynical Trumpian framing, the idea that this is a battle being fought against “the elites”. Here we have a richer-than-god inherited monarchy, owners of the most powerful football club in the world, somehow presenting themselves as outsiders. When will the boundlessly rich kings and princes of the overclass finally be allowed to take a seat at the top table? Other than now, and for ever, in every single sphere of life?"

Offline Stu

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2690 on: June 05, 2024, 09:45:53 PM »
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At least three clubs (Chelsea, Villa, Newcastle) have sympathy for Manchester City & their war on Premier League.

Yeuch.

Ugh.

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2691 on: June 05, 2024, 09:47:18 PM »
Villa want greater allowable losses. is that the same as having sympathy for Man City who likely broke every rule which now means clubs like ours cannot ever catch up? Which is precisely what they want. They are fucked off that they can't spend anything they want to keep up with Real Madrid and their CL dominance. They don't give a fuck about the competitiveness of the PL.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2692 on: June 05, 2024, 09:48:38 PM »
Perhaps we might have to remove claret and blue goggles for a while as this develops.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2693 on: June 05, 2024, 09:49:35 PM »
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At least three clubs (Chelsea, Villa, Newcastle) have sympathy for Manchester City & their war on Premier League.

Yeuch.

What lovely company we are in, there.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2694 on: June 05, 2024, 09:50:54 PM »
Christ i hope that's not true.

Online VILLA MOLE

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2695 on: June 05, 2024, 09:51:25 PM »
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At least three clubs (Chelsea, Villa, Newcastle) have sympathy for Manchester City & their war on Premier League.

Yeuch.

Ugh.

I would imagine it is a sympathy on the overall situation of not being able to compete.  That doesn’t mean they condone the actual actions City have made

Offline Monty

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2696 on: June 05, 2024, 09:51:42 PM »
If we do, we're being pathetically short-sighted. We think we'll ever compete financially with the Emiratis and the Saudis? Turkeys and Christmas.

Offline Stu

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2697 on: June 05, 2024, 09:54:30 PM »
Villa want greater allowable losses. is that the same as having sympathy for Man City who likely broke every rule which now means clubs like ours cannot ever catch up? Which is precisely what they want. They are fucked off that they can't spend anything they want to keep up with Real Madrid and their CL dominance. They don't give a fuck about the competitiveness of the PL.

If Villa are actually backing this move from man city then the owners must believe they can get colossal outsized sponsorships and whatever external funding. I feel a little sick.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2698 on: June 05, 2024, 09:55:06 PM »
There is a big difference between thinking that the rules are wrong and should be removed, and systematically cheating the rules.

FFP is an absolute joke - but everyone has to abide by the same rules, and not doing so (allegedly) would damage the competition, its integrity and its long term future.


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Re: FFP
« Reply #2699 on: June 05, 2024, 09:57:07 PM »
@villareport
🚨 It is understood that Villa co-owner, Nassef Sawiris, is close to City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak & that he shares frustrations over imposed limits on spending.
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