FFP

[Demitri_C]

I do wonder if they didnt do TV and the posher seats if they would sell better for capacity? When he says its not selling out i would be guessing its the posh seats that are not selling

[chrisw1]

I do wonder if they didnt do TV and the posher seats if they would sell better for capacity? When he says its not selling out i would be guessing its the posh seats that are not selling

It's about the disappointing demand for the GA+ offering so far.  The stand was due to have a lot of corporate and GA+ and would have facilitated even more in the Trinity.  Heck has lost confidence that there is demand for this.

[Ads]

They're not building in the city centre  if they even build anything at all. If by some miracle, the biggest joke in the history of football do manage to cobble together a stadium, its hardly going to be Everton or Spurs is it for a 2nd division side that pulls 18k on a good day. If we want to build something, we will build it.

[Gareth]

As if the Noses have you lot rattled. I checked the BBC table and they're about to drop into the third division. And if they do get a ground to be the Darlington of the 2030s, then who gives a good fuck? We're competing for Champions League football and European trophies, with more money on our tummy next season than they get in income full stop.

No, its our current President of Business who has rattled some of us because his actions have been a bit small time and his comms have been positively amateur. And it is a fair comment to ask what the plan is as the SHA announcement narrows down one more potential avenue.

No, it really isn't. His actions in moving us to Adidas, Betano and increasing revenue by over £10m a year aren't sign of small time at all. He's put a stop to a plan to build a North Stand, that's not small time, because you don't know what he's planning to do instead. We have new investors, who are fucking huge, that's not small time.

He's got rid of a badge that most people didn't want (if we're being honest), that was voted in ahead of a really shit design.

He has communicated some information, and just said nothing on others, and in the modern world, patience doesn't seem to be a virtue any more, people (like you) want information when they want it, regardless of whether or not they have any right to make that demand. (I also understand a club is about fans, without them there's nothing, but in the modern world of wanting news immediately, having to wait a few weeks seems like a lifetime).

As for that lot down the road narrowing our options, you're having a fucking laugh. They are nothing in comparison to us, and they will forever be in our shadow. Stop letting them get inside your head.

& all they’ve done is took advantage of a skint council opportunity & bought a bit of land…million miles from building a gold plated dildodrome on it

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

I went past the Wheels site today on the train. They're going to need a lot of lipstick for that pig.

[Risso]

I couldn't care less what Blues do or don't do. It's going to take years to develop that site, and next year they may well be playing in the 3rd division. I just want us to be the very best we can be, and to be that a 42,000 capacity stadium isn't going to cut it. I'd prefer a brand new stadium, but failing that a major redevelopment of Villa Park. The worst option would be to just do nothing. Until we hear anything to the contrary, that appears to be what we're doing.

[Villan82]

As if the Noses have you lot rattled. I checked the BBC table and they're about to drop into the third division. And if they do get a ground to be the Darlington of the 2030s, then who gives a good fuck? We're competing for Champions League football and European trophies, with more money on our tummy next season than they get in income full stop.

No, its our current President of Business who has rattled some of us because his actions have been a bit small time and his comms have been positively amateur. And it is a fair comment to ask what the plan is as the SHA announcement narrows down one more potential avenue.

No, it really isn't. His actions in moving us to Adidas, Betano and increasing revenue by over £10m a year aren't sign of small time at all. He's put a stop to a plan to build a North Stand, that's not small time, because you don't know what he's planning to do instead. We have new investors, who are fucking huge, that's not small time.

He's got rid of a badge that most people didn't want (if we're being honest), that was voted in ahead of a really shit design.

He has communicated some information, and just said nothing on others, and in the modern world, patience doesn't seem to be a virtue any more, people (like you) want information when they want it, regardless of whether or not they have any right to make that demand. (I also understand a club is about fans, without them there's nothing, but in the modern world of wanting news immediately, having to wait a few weeks seems like a lifetime).

As for that lot down the road narrowing our options, you're having a fucking laugh. They are nothing in comparison to us, and they will forever be in our shadow. Stop letting them get inside your head.

I have read your post 7 or 8 times and I really do not understand.

1. I couldn't give a fuck about SHA but, if Heck's masterplan is a city centre stadium it is highly unlikely two will be allowed happen now isn't? The whole argument about a new stadium was revolving around the fact that it would be a campus for all range of things that the city currently doesn't have. Well, that idea may well be just a tad less appealing now but what do I know.

2. With the greatest of respect, ordinary thick plebs like me who 'want information when they want it' did not create this situation. This situation was created when, rather abruptly and without explanation the new world class superstar American CEO that us plebs are too thick to appreciate bungled an announcement that we aren't doing the thing we spent 3 years saying we were doing. In 10-11 weeks time we were to be starting construction on taking Villa Park into the twenty-first century and now we aren't. That's not thickos like me being impatient for news, that's a gaping hole in our whole mid-term strategy to compete and grow.

Anyway, what do I know. I'm not clever enough to hike prices 20% for facilities that have been crying out for investment.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Do I need to dust off a bedsheet?

[Somniloquism]

Do I need to dust off a bedsheet?

To replace the sodden ones of some people on here?

[chrisw1]

Do I need to dust off a bedsheet?

To replace the sodden ones of some people on here?

What's the point of a forum if people can't chat about the Villa and things that may impact on the Villa?  Do you go on politics threads and call people bedwetters for having an opinion?

[LeeB]

There's chatting, then there's getting your knickers in a twist because some hedge fund associated with a terminally useless local team have agreed to buy some wasteland.

[chrisw1]

There's chatting, then there's getting your knickers in a twist because some hedge fund associated with a terminally useless local team have agreed to buy some wasteland.

And then there's chatting about what it could mean for Villa if they go ahead and build a stadium on land they have bought to build a stadium on.

[LeeB]

May as well chat about the impact of a alien invasion wiping out the executive class and it's subsequent effect on demand for our corporate packages for all the likelihood of it becoming a reality.

[chrisw1]

May as well chat about the impact of a alien invasion wiping out the executive class and it's subsequent on demand for our corporate packages for all the likelihood of it becoming a reality.

So you think them building a stadium on land they appear to have bought for building a stadium is as unlikely as an alien invasion?

[paul_e]

My gut feeling is that they are waiting on the end of season, focus on that and what's happening on the pitch because, let's face it that's the priority.

Totally agree with this - how we finish this season dictates our future more than ever.
I personally agree with Heck that to reduce our capacity next season for a couple of years if / when we have Champs league football would be a disaster.

As for a new stadium - i have known VP all my life and would be gutted to leave but if we are honest the local area is such a shit hole that i cannot see how that can not only be improved upon but also maintained.

I see there is a huge amount of land on the other side of the M6 by the Fort (i think it was a railway shunting ground previously and not aware of any plans for it now that it is levelled) where a state of the art stadium could be built. Not sure where we could move our games to for 2 years + (without the same issue of losing capacity that a VP build would cause)

That's the old LDV site and current unused HS2 site. Not all of it is available but what is would still be enough for a huge complex. The difficulty is that it's hemmed in by rail, motorway and canal on 2 sides so finding an effective transport system to get people in and out quickly would be tough and potentially would push a lot of traffic onto Bromford Lane and Ward End Lane, both of which are already pretty shit. As I said earlier though, a good ground right there would look absolutely fucking amazing from the M6 (and HS2), I'm think the same kinda views you get of  the Johan Cryuff Arena from the train through Amsterdam. We wouldn't be in Aston anymore though.