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[paul_e]

I don't think we'd ever have considered moving over there.

It does show though, that there is land in Brum to be had if you want to build a new ground. That lot have been there 5 minutes and have sorted the space in no time.

There is, but that site will need lots of work to be suitable for a 60k stadium (that actually has 60k visitors regularly).

The land freed up by HS2 at the old LDV site would be just as good for a development but suffers from the same transport restrictions. A ground there would look magnificent from the M6 though.

[chrisw1]

Blues now have an opportunity to develop the City Centre multi-purpose stadium that we probably should have been looking at.  Even if we do a complete rebuild where we are, a stadium that close to the City would seem a more likely venue for major events.

It feels like they have stolen a march on us really.

[Villan82]

Blues now have an opportunity to develop the City Centre multi-purpose stadium that we probably should have been looking at.  Even if we do a complete rebuild where we are, a stadium that close to the City would seem a more likely venue for major events.

It feels like they have stolen a march on us really.

Heck seems to be pursuing a stamford bridge type blue print of keep the capacity around 40k but butcher the ground to cram in more hospitality and this is why I am so concerned that he is the wrong man at the worst possible time. Zero imagination and zero fucks given about the future beyond his stay with us.

[Risso]

Blues now have an opportunity to develop the City Centre multi-purpose stadium that we probably should have been looking at.  Even if we do a complete rebuild where we are, a stadium that close to the City would seem a more likely venue for major events.

It feels like they have stolen a march on us really.

around 40j
Heck seems to be pursuing a stamford bridge type blue print of keep the capacity around 40k but butcher the ground to cram in more hospitality and this is why I am so concerned that he is the wrong man at the worst possible time. Zero imagination and zero fucks given about the future beyond his stay with us.

It really does seem to be a sticking plaster approach. Rinse the existing fan base, somehow shoehorn in a few hundred extra seats, and hope for the best.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

I wonder if we had bought that land or similar, what the feeling would be when demolishing Villa Park.

[Villan82]

Blues now have an opportunity to develop the City Centre multi-purpose stadium that we probably should have been looking at.  Even if we do a complete rebuild where we are, a stadium that close to the City would seem a more likely venue for major events.

It feels like they have stolen a march on us really.

around 40j
Heck seems to be pursuing a stamford bridge type blue print of keep the capacity around 40k but butcher the ground to cram in more hospitality and this is why I am so concerned that he is the wrong man at the worst possible time. Zero imagination and zero fucks given about the future beyond his stay with us.

It really does seem to be a sticking plaster approach. Rinse the existing fan base, somehow shoehorn in a few hundred extra seats, and hope for the best.

It's shocking mate. He is so lucky things are going well on the pitch and the feel good factor means fans want to gloss over with a sort of amnesia the fact that he pulled the plug on an imminent and badly needed redevelopment.

[Villan82]

I wonder if we had bought that land or similar, what the feeling would be when demolishing Villa Park.

1. If Chris Heck's announcement of a cancelled redevelopment had never been made we would be looking ahead with confidence to a 50k Villa Park by 2026 and things like the Warehouse etc!

2. If they had said they were pausing to examine other options we'd be anticipating they were going bigger than they had been originally.

3. If they had said Villa Park, for whatever reason, cannot match where we are going and we will have to move, we'd have to just adjust to that.

4. The awful comms mean we have to assume there is going to be continued short-term thinking at the club and more and more clubs are going to end up better served than we are.

[The Edge]

Blues now have an opportunity to develop the City Centre multi-purpose stadium that we probably should have been looking at.  Even if we do a complete rebuild where we are, a stadium that close to the City would seem a more likely venue for major events.

It feels like they have stolen a march on us really.

It does. And that's a very unpleasant thought when you consider what an utter tinpot club they are.

[paul_e]

I wonder if we had bought that land or similar, what the feeling would be when demolishing Villa Park.

1. If Chris Heck's announcement of a cancelled redevelopment had never been made we would be looking ahead with confidence to a 50k Villa Park by 2026 and things like the Warehouse etc!

2. If they had said they were pausing to examine other options we'd be anticipating they were going bigger than they had been originally.

3. If they had said Villa Park, for whatever reason, cannot match where we are going and we will have to move, we'd have to just adjust to that.

4. The awful comms mean we have to assume there is going to be continued short-term thinking at the club and more and more clubs are going to end up better served than we are.

I think "some have assumed" fits in there better. I'm not saying you're wrong to do that but it's just as easy to assume that the 2nd and/or 3rd options are on the table and they're holding back on an anouncement for some reason.

[Villan82]

I wonder if we had bought that land or similar, what the feeling would be when demolishing Villa Park.

1. If Chris Heck's announcement of a cancelled redevelopment had never been made we would be looking ahead with confidence to a 50k Villa Park by 2026 and things like the Warehouse etc!

2. If they had said they were pausing to examine other options we'd be anticipating they were going bigger than they had been originally.

3. If they had said Villa Park, for whatever reason, cannot match where we are going and we will have to move, we'd have to just adjust to that.

4. The awful comms mean we have to assume there is going to be continued short-term thinking at the club and more and more clubs are going to end up better served than we are.

I think "some have assumed" fits in there better. I'm not saying you're wrong to do that but it's just as easy to assume that the 2nd and/or 3rd options are on the table and they're holding back on an anouncement for some reason.

Fair point mate. I think they are plotting more hospitality though which is a whisper at the moment and suggests it's going to be very underwhelming. Why keep shoving in more GA+ into the existing structure if you have bigger plans you are sitting on?

At least Purslow was clear about what we were doing.

[Risso]

It's the poor communications that are part of the problem as you say.

[Villan82]

Blues now have an opportunity to develop the City Centre multi-purpose stadium that we probably should have been looking at.  Even if we do a complete rebuild where we are, a stadium that close to the City would seem a more likely venue for major events.

It feels like they have stolen a march on us really.

It does. And that's a very unpleasant thought when you consider what an utter tinpot club they are.

I can imagine a scenario where we aren't flavour of the month right now with key stakeholders having spent three years demanding better infrastructure to support our redevelopment and Euro 2028 etc only to then pull the plug. I think that it wasn't just us fans that were stunned by the news by all accounts.

[LeeB]

*Looks at league tables, looks at clubs postions, looks at any indicator possible, history, whatever, and wonders what the fuck everyone is getting worked up about*

[Drummond]

I suspect there is going to be a set of huge announcements about what we're doing.

There no news on the Badge, Ground, Sponsor, Kit manufacturer, or 150th Anniversary. I refuse to believe it's because we've stopped work on everything, or that it's through shit organisation etc.

My gut feeling is that they are waiting on the end of season, focus on that and what's happening on the pitch because, let's face it that's the priority.

International week always causes a vacuum that's horrible to fill which is where this sort of stuff comes from. Good on that lot down the road, they are getting on with their thing and that helps Birmingham. We will be bigger, and better and I'm confident we will all wowed at some point in the not-too-distant future.

[Villan82]

*Looks at league tables, looks at clubs postions, looks at any indicator possible, history, whatever, and wonders what the fuck everyone is getting worked up about*

We were told we were redeveloping, then it was cancelled. We are told our revenue generating capacity isn't fit for purpose and it will bite us one day and stall our march up the table due to FFP. The club seem to be scaling back totally on the idea that we need a 50k stadium with all the mod cons yet loads of other clubs, even the rags, are modernising.

Some of us older ones have seen us screw up opportunities in the 1990s to really be established as not just a Big Club but a mega club and I guess that's why it's being debated.

And listen, if Mr Heck pulls a rabbit out of the hat this summer and announces that we are actually doing something big with Villa Park or a new location i will be the first to hold my hand up and say I was wrong. It's jsut the messaging has been piss poor.