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Re: FFP
« Reply #1575 on: March 13, 2024, 04:17:29 PM »
Do a Spuds, build a new VP on site of the existing one? Just a small question where to move while it's under construction, I did think of Alexander Stadium and put a load of temp seating to get in up to a decent capacity, as they did with the Comm games,  but that might cost a few Bob.

I can't see that being the way they'd like to go. It would leave us with all the existing problems in terms of access etc, and the additional one of where to play for two years.

Yeah, the Alex is only viable option. Spuds had Wembley, so not an issue for them
The Alex isn't a viable option - it's 18,000 seats a mile away from the pitch.  I'd imagine most likely would be Ricoh if we redevelop the current site.  Owned by Mike Ashley he'd be desperate to do a commercial deal.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1576 on: March 13, 2024, 04:37:08 PM »
Do a Spuds, build a new VP on site of the existing one? Just a small question where to move while it's under construction, I did think of Alexander Stadium and put a load of temp seating to get in up to a decent capacity, as they did with the Comm games,  but that might cost a few Bob.

That still leaves you with problems caused by the shape of the plot. If you could push the trinity 10-15m into the park and/or buy out all the houses on Nelson Rd and/or buy out Witton Ln and Holte Rd you could get a footprint big enough to compare but you'd stil lstruggle to add in all the extra facilities in a good way and, as you say, you'd have to find somewhere to play for at least 18months. The temporary stands were fine for a summer athletics tournament but having bene there a lot during the games I wouldn't want to be going anywhere near the top of those in sub-zero, wet and windy conditions, it'd be vile (and probably too dangerous).
Wrexham have managed with a (admittedly smaller) temporary stand up one end all season whilst they rebuild their kop end.

I'm not saying that I'd be overly thrilled to be in the cheap seats at the Alex, but for me it's basically the only option bar maybe ground sharing with Wolves but I'd guess that'd be reliant on them doing their phase 3 expansion to take the capacity up to 38,000

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1577 on: March 13, 2024, 04:46:11 PM »
Do a Spuds, build a new VP on site of the existing one? Just a small question where to move while it's under construction, I did think of Alexander Stadium and put a load of temp seating to get in up to a decent capacity, as they did with the Comm games,  but that might cost a few Bob.

I can't see that being the way they'd like to go. It would leave us with all the existing problems in terms of access etc, and the additional one of where to play for two years.

Yeah, the Alex is only viable option. Spuds had Wembley, so not an issue for them
The Alex isn't a viable option - it's 18,000 seats a mile away from the pitch.  I'd imagine most likely would be Ricoh if we redevelop the current site.  Owned by Mike Ashley he'd be desperate to do a commercial deal.

It was around 30k for the games, but as pointed out not ideal.for winter / football. It was just a thought...
Ricoh is just over 32k, not ideal but may be workable. Barcelona have gone from 90k to the Olympic stadium of around 55k, quite a drop.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1578 on: March 13, 2024, 04:47:09 PM »
Do a Spuds, build a new VP on site of the existing one? Just a small question where to move while it's under construction, I did think of Alexander Stadium and put a load of temp seating to get in up to a decent capacity, as they did with the Comm games,  but that might cost a few Bob.

I can't see that being the way they'd like to go. It would leave us with all the existing problems in terms of access etc, and the additional one of where to play for two years.

Yeah, the Alex is only viable option. Spuds had Wembley, so not an issue for them
The Alex isn't a viable option - it's 18,000 seats a mile away from the pitch.  I'd imagine most likely would be Ricoh if we redevelop the current site.  Owned by Mike Ashley he'd be desperate to do a commercial deal.

The Alex did go up to 30k with the temp structure, but that was put in place for the 2 months of the games and had no protection from the elements. I doubt it would be a nice place to be in the middle of a Jan storm.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1579 on: March 13, 2024, 04:47:56 PM »
Do a Spuds, build a new VP on site of the existing one? Just a small question where to move while it's under construction, I did think of Alexander Stadium and put a load of temp seating to get in up to a decent capacity, as they did with the Comm games,  but that might cost a few Bob.

I can't see that being the way they'd like to go. It would leave us with all the existing problems in terms of access etc, and the additional one of where to play for two years.

Yeah, the Alex is only viable option. Spuds had Wembley, so not an issue for them
The Alex isn't a viable option - it's 18,000 seats a mile away from the pitch.  I'd imagine most likely would be Ricoh if we redevelop the current site.  Owned by Mike Ashley he'd be desperate to do a commercial deal.

I agree, I think the Ricoh is about the only option.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1580 on: March 13, 2024, 04:50:45 PM »
Really do think regardless that we need a stadium that will let us compete at the top end, which i'd guess means 60k+ capacity as a minimum. I don't particularly want us to leave Villa Park, but you see the figures for other teams revenue and I do wonder where that's going to come from if we don't have a stadium that can pull in £100m+ a season* and ideally closer to £200m+ a season. Which probably means moving.

* 50,000 folk paying £60 = £3,000,000. Do that 34 times a season and you're on £100m. I don't think it's insane to think that if we can get 25-30 home games a season plus some big gigs etc we might be up there.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1581 on: March 13, 2024, 04:52:15 PM »
What about Old Trafford?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1582 on: March 13, 2024, 04:55:50 PM »
Do a Spuds, build a new VP on site of the existing one? Just a small question where to move while it's under construction, I did think of Alexander Stadium and put a load of temp seating to get in up to a decent capacity, as they did with the Comm games,  but that might cost a few Bob.

That still leaves you with problems caused by the shape of the plot. If you could push the trinity 10-15m into the park and/or buy out all the houses on Nelson Rd and/or buy out Witton Ln and Holte Rd you could get a footprint big enough to compare but you'd stil lstruggle to add in all the extra facilities in a good way and, as you say, you'd have to find somewhere to play for at least 18months. The temporary stands were fine for a summer athletics tournament but having bene there a lot during the games I wouldn't want to be going anywhere near the top of those in sub-zero, wet and windy conditions, it'd be vile (and probably too dangerous).
Wrexham have managed with a (admittedly smaller) temporary stand up one end all season whilst they rebuild their kop end.

I'm not saying that I'd be overly thrilled to be in the cheap seats at the Alex, but for me it's basically the only option bar maybe ground sharing with Wolves but I'd guess that'd be reliant on them doing their phase 3 expansion to take the capacity up to 38,000

The difference in size between what Wrexham have and what we'd need to make the Alex viable is huge and creates a lot of extra problems. On top of that almost all of the fan facilities were temporary with food vans, security gates and toilets all being dropped in alongside the stands. Trying to maintain that sort of setup for 2 years would be really tough. That's just the tip of the iceberg as well.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1583 on: March 13, 2024, 04:56:30 PM »
What about Old Trafford?


It's barely standing up!

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1584 on: March 13, 2024, 05:00:11 PM »
Do a Spuds, build a new VP on site of the existing one? Just a small question where to move while it's under construction, I did think of Alexander Stadium and put a load of temp seating to get in up to a decent capacity, as they did with the Comm games,  but that might cost a few Bob.

That still leaves you with problems caused by the shape of the plot. If you could push the trinity 10-15m into the park and/or buy out all the houses on Nelson Rd and/or buy out Witton Ln and Holte Rd you could get a footprint big enough to compare but you'd stil lstruggle to add in all the extra facilities in a good way and, as you say, you'd have to find somewhere to play for at least 18months. The temporary stands were fine for a summer athletics tournament but having bene there a lot during the games I wouldn't want to be going anywhere near the top of those in sub-zero, wet and windy conditions, it'd be vile (and probably too dangerous).
Wrexham have managed with a (admittedly smaller) temporary stand up one end all season whilst they rebuild their kop end.

I'm not saying that I'd be overly thrilled to be in the cheap seats at the Alex, but for me it's basically the only option bar maybe ground sharing with Wolves but I'd guess that'd be reliant on them doing their phase 3 expansion to take the capacity up to 38,000

The difference in size between what Wrexham have and what we'd need to make the Alex viable is huge and creates a lot of extra problems. On top of that almost all of the fan facilities were temporary with food vans, security gates and toilets all being dropped in alongside the stands. Trying to maintain that sort of setup for 2 years would be really tough. That's just the tip of the iceberg as well.
Yeah, that's fair enough. Changed my mind about it being a good option half way through writing it ;)

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1585 on: March 13, 2024, 05:01:55 PM »
By the time we get round to doing anything and needing somewhere for a couple of years, The King Power in Leicester will be expanded to 40,000, which will make it the biggest stadium within a reasonable distance.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1586 on: March 13, 2024, 05:46:39 PM »
We could do a spurs and go to Wembley. Transport infrastructure is fabulous...

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1587 on: March 13, 2024, 05:47:10 PM »
What about Old Trafford?


It's barely standing up!
It’s not that bad, certainly no worse than large parts of VP.
It would be a pain in the arse but playing anywhere outside Brum would be but at least we would have plenty of capacity.
Bring back the days of the Football Special.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1588 on: March 13, 2024, 06:12:46 PM »
By the time we get round to doing anything and needing somewhere for a couple of years, The King Power in Leicester will be expanded to 40,000, which will make it the biggest stadium within a reasonable distance.

Yep, Leicester for me. Unless small heath have built their 60k retractable tiers megadome by then.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1589 on: March 13, 2024, 06:20:16 PM »
By the time we get round to doing anything and needing somewhere for a couple of years, The King Power in Leicester will be expanded to 40,000, which will make it the biggest stadium within a reasonable distance.

Yep, Leicester for me. Unless small heath have built their 60k retractable tiers megadome by then.

Those tears won't be retractable mate!

 


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