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Offline Risso

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Re: FFP
« Reply #75 on: March 31, 2023, 12:22:38 PM »
Man U - £384m
Villa - £138m

2.8 times higher.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #76 on: March 31, 2023, 12:48:40 PM »
The last time wagebills came up the tuinking was tgat we were 7th in the lesgue and they were top.

At a guess I'd say we're not even half theirs.

There you go.


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Re: FFP
« Reply #77 on: March 31, 2023, 12:49:42 PM »
I would think that our wage bill is nearly as much as Man Utd's, which is a surprise

It's definitely a surprise that you would think that.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #78 on: March 31, 2023, 02:14:04 PM »
I would think that our wage bill is nearly as much as Man Utd's, which is a surprise

It's definitely a surprise that you would think that.
384-137= 247, only nearly 250 million out or 280%
« Last Edit: March 31, 2023, 04:03:29 PM by ChicagoLion »

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Re: FFP
« Reply #79 on: March 31, 2023, 02:27:19 PM »
I would think that our wage bill is nearly as much as Man Utd's, which is a surprise

It's definitely a surprise that you would think that.
384-137= 247, only nearly a quarter of a million out or 280%


*clears throat*

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Re: FFP
« Reply #80 on: March 31, 2023, 02:33:10 PM »
Looking at that graph above (assuming it's anything close to accurate), I feel pretty comfortable with what we have versus what we're spending on wages.

Newcastle / Wolves / Brighton are pretty nicely set considering their squad quality versus their outlay on wages.

But the likes of Leicester, Palace and West Ham must wonder where on earth that money is going. Everton fans must see what they are spending, look at their squad and want to slit their wrists.

Offline Mellin

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Re: FFP
« Reply #81 on: March 31, 2023, 02:42:43 PM »
Everton have pulled a Villa.

You'd hope we can take Brighton and Brentford. If not this season, then next. I don't want to be dismissive of their achievemnts, which are incredible, but those clubs tend to revert to the mean over time. Think Leicester and Everton have boxed themselves in. We know better than anyone that if you're spending that money on a load of shit, you can get trapped pretty quickly. Can't recruit, can't shift. Misery.

A good summer and we're closet challengers to the establishment, which I will categorically take and then we'll see from there.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #82 on: March 31, 2023, 04:04:53 PM »
I would think that our wage bill is nearly as much as Man Utd's, which is a surprise

It's definitely a surprise that you would think that.
384-137= 247, only nearly a quarter of a million out or 280%


*clears throat*
woops

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Re: FFP
« Reply #83 on: October 20, 2023, 05:27:36 PM »
Everton's hearing into an alleged breach of the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules is to be announced on October 25th they could face a points deduction.

It's about time they got relegated.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #84 on: October 22, 2023, 06:22:29 AM »
I’ve been thinking about how we seem to have done really well in terms of FFP/P&S lately. Not an expert by any means, but have we fully amortised the fees of people like Emi1, Konsa, Mings, Dougie and Ollie since they’ve signed longer contracts after their first ones? Then there’s the academy grads that have been sold and the clawback on Ings & Targett. I’m not sure, but it feels like we’re in a strong position on this at the moment.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #85 on: October 22, 2023, 06:33:15 AM »
Everton's hearing into an alleged breach of the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules is to be announced on October 25th they could face a points deduction.

It's about time they got relegated.


I just can’t see the Premier League doing anything like that to a big club. It will be a fine, if anything. Same with man city, whenever that happens.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #86 on: October 22, 2023, 07:07:26 AM »
I’ve been thinking about how we seem to have done really well in terms of FFP/P&S lately. Not an expert by any means, but have we fully amortised the fees of people like Emi1, Konsa, Mings, Dougie and Ollie since they’ve signed longer contracts after their first ones? Then there’s the academy grads that have been sold and the clawback on Ings & Targett. I’m not sure, but it feels like we’re in a strong position on this at the moment.

I think so as well mate. I think we are about to spend big in the next couple of transfer windows.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #87 on: October 22, 2023, 08:12:44 AM »
You can't ever really fully amortise somebody's contract, unless the contract fully runs out and they sign a new one (but then they're more likely to move on a free I suppose). If they sign an extension then the remaining unamortised bit gets stretched out over the new term. But the amortisation amount gets less yes, although the other side of this is usually oncreased wages, of course.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #88 on: October 22, 2023, 08:16:05 AM »
I’ve been thinking about how we seem to have done really well in terms of FFP/P&S lately. Not an expert by any means, but have we fully amortised the fees of people like Emi1, Konsa, Mings, Dougie and Ollie since they’ve signed longer contracts after their first ones? Then there’s the academy grads that have been sold and the clawback on Ings & Targett. I’m not sure, but it feels like we’re in a strong position on this at the moment.

Stick or twist is a constant conundrum but it shows that sticking has its benefits despite it arguably being a lack of ambition.  Finally being able to stick with the same manager can only help with this too. 

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Re: FFP
« Reply #89 on: October 22, 2023, 09:19:28 AM »
I’ve been thinking about how we seem to have done really well in terms of FFP/P&S lately. Not an expert by any means, but have we fully amortised the fees of people like Emi1, Konsa, Mings, Dougie and Ollie since they’ve signed longer contracts after their first ones? Then there’s the academy grads that have been sold and the clawback on Ings & Targett. I’m not sure, but it feels like we’re in a strong position on this at the moment.

Stick or twist is a constant conundrum but it shows that sticking has its benefits despite it arguably being a lack of ambition.  Finally being able to stick with the same manager can only help with this too.

Just to add to this, if the Manager feels he can deliver the ambitions of the board (and fans) with the majority of his existing squad then that massively helps with P&S as you may need to up wages for improved contracts as Risso says but you’re avoiding huge transfer fees and the need for huge Chelsea type splurges to improve your squad. We maybe need to cut this link between big transfers being seen as ambitious when in fact the approach this summer of 2 or 3 strategic squad acquisitions is actually what you need to advance.

 


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