FFP

[LeeB]

I think it all raises the likelihood of a breakaway league to be honest.  These clubs will be using that threat as a means to minimise their risk

If you're Liverpool or Man United, fat on the tourist dollar, seeing a Chelsea or a Man City (preferably both) punished so hard they are effectively wiped out for the foreseeable, then why would you do anything to assist?

For all their faults you'd think if the Jaudis are playing by the rules they'll be pushing hard behind the scenes to fuck those that haven't.

[Drummond]

Which pub is that?

Feed The Yak. Pretty sure it's on one of the new/gentrified streets near the train station. I was there for the Newcastle game on the opening day of the season.

Villa Lions used to meet in a smaller shack nearby, I remember going mental there when Lansbury (?!) scored an equaliser at Elland Road a few years ago when we were in the Ch'shit.

I was in the wrong Irish pub in town trying to meet Percy when that happened, which is now immortalised in his book.

I remember it well.

I should think so, you wrote it! 

[Smithy]

Don't forget Chelsea still have the 8 year contracts to fall back on as I believe the rule change was only voted through in December and only affects new or extended contracts. So up until the summer, the players essentially cost half as much for FFP purposes compared to the standard 4 year contract. (I'm sure financially it isn't that simple and I'm just taking Amortising something over 8 years instead of 4 meaning costs are smaller for FFP).

Although it will definitely have helped them avoid FFP issues in the short-term, it's definitely fucking them over in the longer term.  They'll still be paying £50-60m per year in their FFP numbers for the likes of Mudryk, Caicedo, Fernandes, Fofano and Curcurella in the year 2030. And that's not ALL of them. It's probably £70m+ if you include all of their long-term contract signings. 

That's a MASSIVE hole to plug each and every season for the next six or seven years.  They will start every season at -£70m on their transfer dealings.  It's the equivalent of every single penny from their match-day revenue, every year, just going to service their FFP "debt".  If they miss European football entirely this season, which looks likely, I can see a bit of a firesale going on there in the summer.

The thing they have in their favour, is a sizeable commercial operation built around 20 years of post-Abramovic success.  But all that extra commercial revenue doesn't continue indefinitely when you're not competing at the top end of the table.  For example, they got one-year shirt sponsorship deal worth £40m for this season.  There is no way in hell it'll be a similar number next year.

[Villa in Denmark]

Maybe a resolution to the Man City charges is closer than thought?

Manchester City charges: Premier League says date has been set for hearing -

[eamonn]

Not before 2025 it says.

[Chap]

How does that cheeky fucker Masters get away with not revealing the date before a parliamentary committee?. Should be forced too,  or face court.

[eamonn]

Isn't he Villa (Masters)?

[Chap]

Apparently so.🙁

[KRS]

As soon as he said that he couldn’t discuss details about the case (which is fair enough) or reveal the date, it struck me that they don’t actually have a date as such and it’s just lip service to quash the criticism being aimed at them particularly with the action being taken against Everton and Forest whilst the catalogue of Cit£H charges are ongoing.

[Risso]

They list all major court dates, so why is Man City's date so fucking sacrosanct?

[KRS]

If they do actually have one (which I doubt is set in stone even if they do), then may be they know that they would face even further vocal criticism from clubs, fans and media if it was revealed that it wasn’t going to be anytime soon or even in 2024.

[tomd2103]

If they do actually have one (which I doubt is set in stone even if they do), then may be they know that they would face even further vocal criticism from clubs, fans and media if it was revealed that it wasn’t going to be anytime soon or even in 2024.

If Forest and Everton are handed out punishments (the latter for the second time) I think the clamour for action against Manchester City will grow a lot louder. 

[Louzie0]

Whenever sanctions for FFP are brought up in the news, my first thought is, ‘What about Manchester City?’
With 115 accusations against them, why are other clubs being docked points and fined, while they are sailing along, apparently untroubled by anything related to these allegations?

Whenever the date is, I hope it’s coming up this season.

[The Edge]

Whenever sanctions for FFP are brought up in the news, my first thought is, ‘What about Manchester City?’
With 115 accusations against them, why are other clubs being docked points and fined, while they are sailing along, apparently untroubled by anything related to these allegations?

Whenever the date is, I hope it’s coming up this season.

The answer is simple. Man City, or should I say the extremely wealthy Arabs that own them, have can afford the best legal team on the planet and to quote an intercepted internal email that the German sports paper who investigated them in the first place printed "do whatever you need to do to make us the most successful team in the world, we can buy ourselves out of any situation and our legal team will tie them up in so many knots it will take years to carry out an investigation" Maybe not word for word but that's the gist of it. Printed in De Bilde (?) a few years back. By comparison the likes of Everton and Forest are just sitting ducks.

[Drummond]

And. I'd imagine broadcasters have all been reminded by those same lawyers not to even dare hint at a suggestion of guilt.