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Re: FFP
« Reply #3285 on: June 28, 2024, 11:24:39 AM »
Rhian Brewster - £24m four years ago. Piss off Premier League.

Romeo Lavia, 18 years old, 0 first team appearances, Man City - Southampton for £15m
Romeo Lavia, 19 years old, 29 appearances while getting relegated, Southampton - Chelsea for £53m.

Yes, Everton paying us £9m for Iroegbuman is definitely the weird one.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3286 on: June 28, 2024, 11:27:27 AM »
You could exclude academy players from the PSR calculation but PSR is changing from next year anyway.

Hopefully, we just get Manchester United to decide what the new rules should be as they, clearly, have the interests of football at heart.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3287 on: June 28, 2024, 11:30:16 AM »
Us and Man Utd were the only clubs to vote against the limit that was decided on at the second to last Premier League meeting.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3288 on: June 28, 2024, 11:31:56 AM »
Maybe, but it now seems that Man United are the main people complaining about how unfair it is that Everton would rather use the rules to their advantage than have to sell their best players to Man U at a price that suits Man U.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3289 on: June 28, 2024, 11:34:09 AM »
Everton not selling Braithwaite on the cheap to them appears a huge catalyst to the Chemical Tax Dodging Rat.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3290 on: June 28, 2024, 11:40:32 AM »
Unlike Man Utd fans to act like spoiled brats.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3291 on: June 28, 2024, 11:56:54 AM »
I see West Ham and Southampton are doing a swap with Flynn Downes - Kyle Walker-Peters.

Good on them.

Maybe some of these so called bigger clubs that have spent years stringing out deals, tapping up players and low balling clubs (hello Totteringhams) are getting their comeuppence.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3292 on: June 28, 2024, 12:56:41 PM »
The idea of youth players not factoring into PSR calculations is silly.

One of the most sustainable ways to operate a club is to focus on developing good young players and then sell them on at a profit which you can then reinvest in your squad.

Why would we want to take that out of the game?

It would make the whole league poorer and is basically a big 'f*** you' to any club with ambitions to improve without massive sugar daddy funding.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3293 on: June 28, 2024, 01:06:15 PM »
The Premier League could be creating all sorts of shit for themselves if they pursue this beyond a letter reminding clubs of their responsibilities. They'd then have to go back and review every single transfer for the last ten plus years. Cole Palmer obviously had a great season at Chelsea, but prior to that he was a promising youth team player with a handful of first team appearances, but still went for £40m. Iroegbunam has a dozen appearances as a well, and has played for the various ages of England youth team players, and went for £9m.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3294 on: June 28, 2024, 01:49:44 PM »
The Premier League could be creating all sorts of shit for themselves if they pursue this beyond a letter reminding clubs of their responsibilities. They'd then have to go back and review every single transfer for the last ten plus years. Cole Palmer obviously had a great season at Chelsea, but prior to that he was a promising youth team player with a handful of first team appearances, but still went for £40m. Iroegbunam has a dozen appearances as a well, and has played for the various ages of England youth team players, and went for £9m.
Its just posturing, they know and everybody else knows that there is nothing they can do about it.
I think the PL is trying to warn clubs not to abuse the process.

Offline LeonW

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3295 on: June 28, 2024, 03:44:11 PM »
The Premier League could be creating all sorts of shit for themselves if they pursue this beyond a letter reminding clubs of their responsibilities. They'd then have to go back and review every single transfer for the last ten plus years. Cole Palmer obviously had a great season at Chelsea, but prior to that he was a promising youth team player with a handful of first team appearances, but still went for £40m. Iroegbunam has a dozen appearances as a well, and has played for the various ages of England youth team players, and went for £9m.
Its just posturing, they know and everybody else knows that there is nothing they can do about it.
I think the PL is trying to warn clubs not to abuse the process.

More than that; because the accounts are audited, if a club agrees to pay a fee for a player, they have to pay that fee, so why would a club agree to pay more for a player then they value them at or are prepared to for them. It will show in the books. This is why it’s nonsense. And the PL ‘writing to remind’ is just horsesh*t and clearly acting under the instructions of some. It’s not as though this has been discussed at a meeting.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3296 on: June 28, 2024, 04:06:31 PM »
No one seemed overly bothered by the fees for players like Brewster, Solanke, Trafford, even Doug when we bought him, despite them having little track record. As a few examples. Even Archer, Ramsey and Chucky. Suddenly though it's a problem.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3297 on: June 28, 2024, 04:11:03 PM »
All this talk of loopholes is insane. It's not a bug, it's a fucking feature. Daft twats.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3298 on: June 28, 2024, 04:16:40 PM »
I see West Ham and Southampton are doing a swap with Flynn Downes - Kyle Walker-Peters.

Good on them.

Maybe some of these so called bigger clubs that have spent years stringing out deals, tapping up players and low balling clubs (hello Totteringhams) are getting their comeuppence.
I'd have both of those players at the Villa ...

Offline Villatillidie25

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3299 on: June 28, 2024, 04:18:26 PM »
The Premier League could be creating all sorts of shit for themselves if they pursue this beyond a letter reminding clubs of their responsibilities. They'd then have to go back and review every single transfer for the last ten plus years. Cole Palmer obviously had a great season at Chelsea, but prior to that he was a promising youth team player with a handful of first team appearances, but still went for £40m. Iroegbunam has a dozen appearances as a well, and has played for the various ages of England youth team players, and went for £9m.
Its just posturing, they know and everybody else knows that there is nothing they can do about it.
I think the PL is trying to warn clubs not to abuse the process.

More than that; because the accounts are audited, if a club agrees to pay a fee for a player, they have to pay that fee, so why would a club agree to pay more for a player then they value them at or are prepared to for them. It will show in the books. This is why it’s nonsense. And the PL ‘writing to remind’ is just horsesh*t and clearly acting under the instructions of some. It’s not as though this has been discussed at a meeting.

While I agree with the sentiment, what Juventus got done for a couple of years ago is exactly why there should be some semblence of control. However, nothing I see here or with other clubs looks remotely iffy.

 


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