FFP

[cdbearsfan]

How many Premier League minutes had Jude Bellingham played when Dortmund signed him for £25 million? That worked out okay.

[Risso]

Our investment in young players and the academy is paying off. We're catching up with Man City and Chelsea who have been doing it far longer. Liverpool have too, but it feels to me like they bring more through to the first team.

Arsenal and Tottenham are behind us, but surely will look to catch up.

Arsenal would probably argue that with Saka, Martinelli, Saliba and Smith-Rowe in the team, their academy is working really well.

I agree with your overall point - but I think counting Saliba is a stretch. He cost them £30m as a first-team player at St Etienne and barely set foot in Arsenal's academy.

Yes I know, but he's similar in a way to how we're going about things, Buying up promising 17 and 18 year olds, loaning them out, and then selling them on. Only he's very good, so he's playing in their first team instead of being sold. Iroegbunam hasn't spent all that long in our academy either, to be honest.

[Dave]

Our investment in young players and the academy is paying off. We're catching up with Man City and Chelsea who have been doing it far longer. Liverpool have too, but it feels to me like they bring more through to the first team.

Arsenal and Tottenham are behind us, but surely will look to catch up.

Arsenal would probably argue that with Saka, Martinelli, Saliba and Smith-Rowe in the team, their academy is working really well.

I agree with your overall point - but I think counting Saliba is a stretch. He cost them £30m as a first-team player at St Etienne and barely set foot in Arsenal's academy.

Yes I know, but he's similar in a way to how we're going about things, Buying up promising 17 and 18 year olds, loaning them out, and then selling them on. Only he's very good, so he's playing in their first team instead of being sold. Iroegbunam hasn't spent all that long in our academy either, to be honest.

I know, but we bought him from West Brom's academy to develop in our academy instead. Arsenal bought Saliba from St Etienne's first team with a view to him being in their first-team squad. It's more akin to us buying Duran at a similar age from Chicago Fire's first team squad to be in our first team squad - he wouldn't be held up as evidence of our academy doing well.

Like I say, no disagreement with your point - he just stuck out in the list a bit, is all.

[paul_e]

Martinelli was signed (by Emery) as a 19 year old and made 26 appearances in his first season as well.

[Dave]

Fair enough. I take back my earlier agreement with Risso then.

[UK Redsox]

The Doug deal might be the one that alleviates the pre-Jun 2024 problems.

However, the other sales would still help with the ongoing three year rolling compliance period going forward

[sid1964]

I would imagine that due to the rolling 3 year compliance, we will need to sell another big hitter next summer to comply with PSR.

Just noticed on you tube a video, claiming that we are not clear of PSR for this season and we may have a points deduction - not sure if this is true or just click bait??

[dekko]

Who produced the youtube video will have some bearing on how seriously I take it.  The dreadful Football Insider have a youtube channel and it's even worse than their written content....

[OCD]

There doesn't seem to be any sense of panic so I think we're alright.

[lovejoy]

Has the DOug deal gone through? The nearer it gets to 30 June the more leverage Juve have to price chip.

[OCD]

The paperwork has already been exchanged.

[pablo_picasso]

I would imagine that due to the rolling 3 year compliance, we will need to sell another big hitter next summer to comply with PSR.

Just noticed on you tube a video, claiming that we are not clear of PSR for this season and we may have a points deduction - not sure if this is true or just click bait??

That John Townley bloke from the Birmingham Mail reckons the youngsters being sold have nothing to do with *the June PSR deadline because the Douglas Luiz deal covers that problem...

BirminghamLive understands Douglas Luiz's €50m move to Juventus is the deal which puts Villa in the clear regarding PSR.

So any thoughts that they are simply flogging the likes of Tim Iroegbunam and Omari Kellyman to avoid a possible points deduction for breaking rules are wide of the mark.

And with the club's fears over PSR thus alleviated, any other transfer activity will simply be based on footballing requirements rather than financial, even though selling an academy player for pure profit, such as Kellyman, is obviously going to bolster any balance sheet.

*edited for clarity

[Dogtanian]

Yeah, it might not be FFP related, but they may have a target budget they want to have for incomings.

[pablo_picasso]

A valid point, but I was responding to the "points deduction/clickbait" question.

I think its safe to say that the comings & goings recently will have an eye on future PSR problems...

[ChicagoLion]

I would imagine that due to the rolling 3 year compliance, we will need to sell another big hitter next summer to comply with PSR.

Just noticed on you tube a video, claiming that we are not clear of PSR for this season and we may have a points deduction - not sure if this is true or just click bait??

That John Townley bloke from the Birmingham Mail reckons the youngsters being sold have nothing to do with PSR because the Douglas Luiz deal covers that problem...

BirminghamLive understands Douglas Luiz's €50m move to Juventus is the deal which puts Villa in the clear regarding PSR.

So any thoughts that they are simply flogging the likes of Tim Iroegbunam and Omari Kellyman to avoid a possible points deduction for breaking rules are wide of the mark.

And with the club's fears over PSR thus alleviated, any other transfer activity will simply be based on footballing requirements rather than financial, even though selling an academy player for pure profit, such as Kellyman, is obviously going to bolster any balance sheet.

Well that’s not strictly true, any transfer has an impact on PSR.