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Offline aj2k77

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1755 on: March 18, 2024, 09:37:12 AM »
Take the lower tiers out and the uppers just float in the air?

They could use an industrial size version of the technology that the hover boards from Back To The Future 2 use.

Offline langleylions

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1756 on: March 18, 2024, 09:38:24 AM »
I dont mean to use the stadium , i mean to bulldoze the lot and rebuild , with loads of room to build fan areas and carparks etc , i was only suggesting , dont crucify me ffs

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1757 on: March 18, 2024, 09:47:44 AM »
Something in or close to the city centre would be brilliant for the club and the city as a whole. You only have to go to Newcastle to see the heaving bars and restaurants before and after  their home games to see how beneficial it would be.

The Principality Stadium in Cardiff is another example of a city centre stadium.  I suppose rugby has the 'benefit' that fans can drink during the game, so they can coin it in while fans are in the stadium.
The Principality Stadium is great, my favourite 'modern' stadium. If we were building a new ground, I'd want us to take a lot of cues from that. City centre location, stands that feel like they're almost on top of the pitch, retractable roof so we can turn it in to a giant city centre arena.

I think my overall feeling is that I don't particularly want us to leave Villa Park as I think, for all it's faults, it's not a bad site and it has a lot of history attached to it. But if we were to move, I'd want it to be so that we have the stadium that every other club wants. Like Spurs' ground at the moment, but bigger, better, end visually stunning. It should be like the Holte façade, where even though we all know it's a new(ish) pastiche of the old Trinity Road stand, in 20 years time people will look at ot and assume its been that way for a hundred years.
I'm with you Algy, the Cardiff stadium is superb, although I don't know if it is up to modern standards in terms of hospitality and concourse space etc.  I think we should have built the North Stand, but if we move then City Centre would be great.  I think the gas holders site makes most sense (subject to contamination / it already having been targeted for other uses etc)

Offline langleylions

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1758 on: March 18, 2024, 09:53:57 AM »
Cant see them moving closer to city as why would heck want us all drinking and eating in town then a 5 minute stroll to the ground and spend nothing once their , they want us to eat and drink etc in their facility !!

Offline Villan82

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1759 on: March 18, 2024, 09:56:17 AM »
Cant see them moving closer to city as why would heck want us all drinking and eating in town then a 5 minute stroll to the ground and spend nothing once their , they want us to eat and drink etc in their facility !!

Yes but why didn't he go all steam ahead on the redevelopment then? Why set us back if he wants to stay where we are?

Offline tomd2103

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1760 on: March 18, 2024, 10:00:20 AM »
Moving grounds would have to be for something so advantageous for us to make it worthwhile that you couldn't say no, the Alex is not it. That would be a downgrade.

Think he was talking about building a new stadium on the site of the Alexander Stadium, given the amount of space there is there. 

The problem with that site would be the traffic though, as it would be an absolute nightmare whichever way you looked it at.  I went to the athletics there during the Commonwealth Games  and they had to put on loads of  additional buses to get people in and out of there.  The stadium was well done once you got there though. 

I can't help but think that the Commonwealth Games was a bit of a missed opportunity really, but then I suppose that the bid was successful back in 2017 and the club wasn't in this position then.

Offline langleylions

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1761 on: March 18, 2024, 10:08:59 AM »
Surely with a main road to town one way and motorway the other way plus a new train station and god knows how many buses go down that route  , could be utilized better , and i think the extra buses for the games was just the council  trying to look all green and courteous with free buses !!

Offline PeterWithe

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1762 on: March 18, 2024, 11:12:14 AM »
I'd guess that with public finances being in the shitter, demolishing a perfectly good but rarely used athletics stadium and rebuilding it a mile away, on the site of a perfectly good football stadium, would be a none starter.

Offline langleylions

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1763 on: March 18, 2024, 11:21:23 AM »
Always got to be one sensible one !!

Offline DB

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1764 on: March 18, 2024, 11:22:49 AM »
The club may be waiting on what happens with FFP before making any solid plans / decision on the stadium.

Offline Clive W

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1765 on: March 18, 2024, 11:28:20 AM »
On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being dead against moving from Villa Park, I have always been a 10.

I am probably a 5 now which leaves me wondering if there is some dark arts and subliminal messaging going on from certain quarters in the club!

I’m an 11

Always will be

Villa Park is Aston Villa
Aston Villa is Villa Park

Offline Risso

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1766 on: March 18, 2024, 11:34:29 AM »
There must be 15 acres we could get in the whole area of Digbeth/Deritend/south of Highgate Park? Everywhere round there seems to be full of ratty warehouses, a lot of which seem empty. It's surely easier dealing with a few businesses than trying to use CPOs for housing around Villa Park?

Offline LeeB

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1767 on: March 18, 2024, 11:47:19 AM »
There must be 15 acres we could get in the whole area of Digbeth/Deritend/south of Highgate Park? Everywhere round there seems to be full of ratty warehouses, a lot of which seem empty. It's surely easier dealing with a few businesses than trying to use CPOs for housing around Villa Park?

The traffic around there would be murder on matchday, it's terrible at the best of times. I had the misfortune to be passing at about 2pm on Saturday with them at home and it was choc-a-block with their piss poor gates.

Offline Gareth

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1768 on: March 18, 2024, 11:56:35 AM »
The club may be waiting on what happens with FFP before making any solid plans / decision on the stadium.

And there is the big issue…a one line remark that the redevelopment is not happening is pretty much the only comm…the radio silence shows the contempt that the fans are held in.  All it would have taken was a professionally worded and delivered statement to say they are delaying whilst they review all options

Offline Sdwbvf

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1769 on: March 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PM »
How about the land between Duddeston Mill Road and Nechells Parkway. Near a station. Easy to run buses into town as well. Decent run out to the M6

 


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