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Offline Beard82

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1020 on: March 04, 2024, 07:32:58 PM »
I guess to be honest - our injuries have tied our hands on what we can do.  Zinolo, Langlet wouldn't be on the books, and Digne would have been off most likely if Mareno wasn't injured.

Coutinho, Olsen, Dendoker and even Chambers brain dead decisions in hindsight.   

I think Luiz will go in the summer unfortunately - unless the PL suddenly admit this whole FFP is a farce and stop it or we unless Heck and co some loophole.  It's a real shame that the odds are so stacked in the sky 6 teams favour despite them having 2bn of combine debts. 

Luiz is the obvious one - Kamara is crocked and I don't think Ramsey is at peak value.  Emi just wouldn't generate enough money to make it worth selling him, and I don't think Watkins is replaceable.   I guess Cash, and possibly Bailey might be worth something, and Digne. 

I know I would much rather earn 25k a year and have no mortgage, then earn 50k a year with a million pound mortgage.  Funny definition of wealth that is anything but.

I still think the management will have a clear plan that will minimise the impact this has. 

 

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1021 on: March 04, 2024, 07:33:31 PM »
What does a new stadium give us that a new North Stand and down the line a new Witton Lane and the warehouse etc can't give us?

Villa Park is one of our unique selling points- do we want to be just any old club playing in a bland soulless bowl?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1022 on: March 04, 2024, 07:34:28 PM »
You perform miracles on the pitch (like NU last season) but you simply struggle to compete with the revenues the others generate.

I think we need a new stadium.

I'd rather a 6 point deduction.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1023 on: March 04, 2024, 07:37:01 PM »
What does a new stadium give us that a new North Stand and down the line a new Witton Lane and the warehouse etc can't give us?

Villa Park is one of our unique selling points- do we want to be just any old club playing in a bland soulless bowl?

Well they looked at that and decided against it….

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1024 on: March 04, 2024, 07:37:40 PM »
If we don't want to sell, surely there's an option to just not buy. I know transfers get a lot of attention, and the likes of Harry Redknapp will tell you they're essential (and in great depth and variety), but are they? For one window, isn't it better to stick with a squad that's done well?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1025 on: March 04, 2024, 07:40:18 PM »
It is nuts that this ruling cripples anyone trying to break the beloved six and if anything, forces us to sell our best players to them.

How is that fair play?

Also

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The Club are delighted that Villa Park has been confirmed as a host venue for Euro 2028 and as such we have continued to invest in our infrastructure, with capital investment almost doubling at £13.4m (£7.1m last year). Whilst we continue to seek opportunities to increase the capacity of the stadium, we recognise that this must be done in tandem with improvements to the local transport network. We continue to work with local authorities to find appropriate solutions that will allow fans safe, efficient and affordable access to and from games.

Said it before, say it again, mark my words *taps nose* this is all going to lead to a new stadium, almost certainly elsewhere.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1026 on: March 04, 2024, 07:41:21 PM »
If we don't want to sell, surely there's an option to just not buy. I know transfers get a lot of attention, and the likes of Harry Redknapp will tell you they're essential (and in great depth and variety), but are they? For one window, isn't it better to stick with a squad that's done well?

I think that might be the plan to a degree, but I also think this basically necessitates selling Luiz.

Similarly to how Newcastle are probably going to have to sell Guimaraes for the same reason.

Honestly, what a fucking shit system.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1027 on: March 04, 2024, 07:41:42 PM »
Thanks Dekko, that sounds very re-assuring.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1028 on: March 04, 2024, 07:41:49 PM »
Greg(g) Evans said a few months ago this was going to happen. He took serious stick for it.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1029 on: March 04, 2024, 07:42:21 PM »
What does a new stadium give us that a new North Stand and down the line a new Witton Lane and the warehouse etc can't give us?

Carte blanche to build the whole thing from the ground up, and have a Spurs-esque situation rather than a Chelsea one, except without all the rich people.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1030 on: March 04, 2024, 07:43:08 PM »
Greg(g) Evans said a few months ago this was going to happen. He took serious stick for it.

Yeah, but basically, it's the g situation with him. Casts everything he says in a shadow of disbelief.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1031 on: March 04, 2024, 07:43:43 PM »
If we don't want to sell, surely there's an option to just not buy. I know transfers get a lot of attention, and the likes of Harry Redknapp will tell you they're essential (and in great depth and variety), but are they? For one window, isn't it better to stick with a squad that's done well?

I think that might be the plan to a degree, but I also think this basically necessitates selling Luiz.



Why? If he's happy and we're happy, what's the problem? If he wants to go, that's different. It would be decision made and money to spend.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1032 on: March 04, 2024, 07:47:05 PM »
Can anyone guess how much of the £120m counts against the FFP rules once the non-qualifying expenditure is knocked off?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1033 on: March 04, 2024, 07:52:22 PM »
If we don't want to sell, surely there's an option to just not buy. I know transfers get a lot of attention, and the likes of Harry Redknapp will tell you they're essential (and in great depth and variety), but are they? For one window, isn't it better to stick with a squad that's done well?

I think that might be the plan to a degree, but I also think this basically necessitates selling Luiz.



Why? If he's happy and we're happy, what's the problem? If he wants to go, that's different. It would be decision made and money to spend.

Because we are going to have to find the money from selling one of our best players, and not just so we can spend in the summer, but to bolster the three year running total.

I think he's fully ammortised* as he's been here a while so he'd have just as much FFP impact as, say, Jacob Ramsey would.


* hate having to even think about this shit.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1034 on: March 04, 2024, 07:54:19 PM »
Can anyone guess how much of the £120m counts against the FFP rules once the non-qualifying expenditure is knocked off?

There's a Tweet from Maher that says ~£56m in covid related costs and then the club statement mentions ~£13m in infrastructure investment so potentially around £69-70m

 


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