Super League Tottenham 1-2 Proper Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[Monty]

The more I think about this match the better the performance gets. After a really very bad first 15 minutes we absolutely, totally, no caveats battered them. We just gave them no time, no room, no breath, no nothing.

And by the way, a special word for Konsa. Could he be the answer to our defensive midfield conundrum? It's difficult as he's such a great central defender, but he's also great when he steps forward and when playing sharp passes out of defence under pressure. How in the name of Christ Dier is in the England squad and he's not is beyond anything I can understand.

[Brazilian Villain]

And by the way, a special word for Konsa. Could he be the answer to our defensive midfield conundrum? It's difficult as he's such a great central defender, but he's also great when he steps forward and when playing sharp passes out of defence under pressure. How in the name of Christ Dier is in the England squad and he's not is beyond anything I can understand.

Agreed. You would hope that if against Chelsea  he puts in another good performance at right back that Southgate might just think "Waaaiit a minute".

[spartacuss]

After Sunday, I was doubly pissed-off both with the performance and the fact that I was waving goodbye to £30 @ 50/1 (do the maths - I can't bear to!) if Villa had finished 10th or better.

What a difference 3 days can make!  Watching them comprehensively mash the Spuds has re-energised me.  Apart from scoring more to reflect our comfortable superiority, this was the best since the (October) Liverpool match or the 'Stevie Gerrard' semi-final.

 As for the bet (my once-a-year flutter apart from the lottery), you can't lose what you've never had.  I'd rather the euphoria of seeing/experiencing the Villa giving of their best - shit or bust. Call me a Muppet, but this team, this club, can do that to you.

[TheTimVilla]

Talking about lifting your spirits, was feeling really down after Sunday's performance, just didn't see that performance coming, absolutely superb Villa. Could easily have been more, clear penalty disallowed, thanks Kev, El Ghazi missing a sitter, Chuk hitting the post, that's just 3 occasions, there were many more. Kane and Son, 2 of the best strikers in the league hardly got a look in.

A great team performance, special credit to Martinez. Mings and Nakamba, but MOTM for me was SJM, absolutely superb display, controlled the midfield, Spurs simply couldn't stop him, it was McGinn at his best. Obviously Jack's absence is the main factor our form has dipped in the last few months, but not seeing more performances like this from SJM is certainly another factor.

Another performance like this on Sunday and we can beat Chelsea.

Pretty much my view as well, all of the above!

[paul_e]

The more I think about this match the better the performance gets. After a really very bad first 15 minutes we absolutely, totally, no caveats battered them. We just gave them no time, no room, no breath, no nothing.

And by the way, a special word for Konsa. Could he be the answer to our defensive midfield conundrum? It's difficult as he's such a great central defender, but he's also great when he steps forward and when playing sharp passes out of defence under pressure. How in the name of Christ Dier is in the England squad and he's not is beyond anything I can understand.

I've been stopping myself from making that post about Konsa for about 2 months, he reads the same brilliantly and that would translate perfectly into that shielding role. On top of that I think he's grown in confidence this season and stands up for himself and team much more than he did, I could see him being the shithouse defensive midfielder we're after but I don't know if I want to move him because I also think he's a top 4 standard centre back and I think the partnership between him and Mings has become one of the best in the league.

[Monty]

Konsa can do whatever he, and whatever the manager, wants him to do. I don't remember the last time I've seen a defender his age who's already just so secure. Remarkable.

Apropos of nothing, I just remembered how Micah Richards before the game was saying of Dele Alli 'you don't become a bad player overnight', and all I could think was 'well, you did'.

[Drummond]

I don't think his distribution is good enough to put him there. His value to to the team would diminish as a result.

Leave him where he is, Rolls Royce of a Centre Half.

[Skerra]

Just a few observations following the match last night. After recent performances, I honestly thought we would be over run in this game but, following our poor first 10 minutes, the team reverted back to the glorious early season attacking game. Such a pleasure to watch and proves yet again that we are so much better when we press a bit higher up the pitch and just go for it. It also takes some pressure off our defence. Also, I just love it when the team proves me wrong because it means they are playing the way most of us want them to.
As regards the penalty...there are no ifs and buts, it was nailed on. Even if the ball is going out of play it doesn’t mean you can foul your opponent without being punished for said offence.
Before last night, I didn’t give us a prayer against Chelsea, especially as they need the win to finish in the top 4. However, I really hope we step up to the plate again and, give the lucky people that were successful in the ballot, a fantastic last effort of the season.
After all said and done...we are Aston Villa FC which I hope the name of which will strike fear in the hearts of our opponents within a couple of years time if not before!!

[LeeB]

The more I think about this match the better the performance gets. After a really very bad first 15 minutes we absolutely, totally, no caveats battered them. We just gave them no time, no room, no breath, no nothing.

And by the way, a special word for Konsa. Could he be the answer to our defensive midfield conundrum? It's difficult as he's such a great central defender, but he's also great when he steps forward and when playing sharp passes out of defence under pressure. How in the name of Christ Dier is in the England squad and he's not is beyond anything I can understand.

In my post match chat with my brother I made the same point, Konsa could perform any of the variety of roles Dier gets picked for to much greater effect.
Mind you, so could I probably, at 44.

[The Edge]

I haven't read the whole thread, but has there been any comments from the 'officials' as to why it wasn't a penalty?

On the MOTD coverage you can clearly see Craig Pawsob tells Oli " the ball was going out" .  Not that that mattered for Kane but.......

Where in the rule book does it say it isn't a foul if the ball is on its way out?  They make it up as they go along.  More should be made of this particular incident using the Kane pen V us as proof that the direction of the ball has no baring on such a decision.

Exactly. If the ball was by the touchline and going out and a player clatters another player would the ref not give a foul and probably book the assailant? Of course he would.  Pathetic refereeing compounded by that prick Kevin Friend who was the VAR official. They really are making up the rules as they go along.

[Risso]

I haven't read the whole thread, but has there been any comments from the 'officials' as to why it wasn't a penalty?

Kevin Friend was on VAR, enough said.

Fucking hell, there we go then.

He lives not far from me. If I wasn't such a thoroughly calm chap I'd probably brick his windows and shit through his letterbox.

[danno]

Do clintons sell, 'you're a Villa hating Twat' Greetings cards?  I'd pay postage.

[N'ZMAV]

I haven't read the whole thread, but has there been any comments from the 'officials' as to why it wasn't a penalty?

Kevin Friend was on VAR, enough said.

Fucking hell, there we go then.

He lives not far from me. If I wasn't such a thoroughly calm chap I'd probably brick his windows and shit through his letterbox.

Go and twat the prick.

[papa lazarou]

Do clintons sell, 'you're a Villa hating Twat' Greetings cards?  I'd pay postage.

They've sold out.

[ChicagoLion]

The more I think about this match the better the performance gets. After a really very bad first 15 minutes we absolutely, totally, no caveats battered them. We just gave them no time, no room, no breath, no nothing.

And by the way, a special word for Konsa. Could he be the answer to our defensive midfield conundrum? It's difficult as he's such a great central defender, but he's also great when he steps forward and when playing sharp passes out of defence under pressure. How in the name of Christ Dier is in the England squad and he's not is beyond anything I can understand.

I've been stopping myself from making that post about Konsa for about 2 months, he reads the same brilliantly and that would translate perfectly into that shielding role. On top of that I think he's grown in confidence this season and stands up for himself and team much more than he did, I could see him being the shithouse defensive midfielder we're after but I don't know if I want to move him because I also think he's a top 4 standard centre back and I think the partnership between him and Mings has become one of the best in the league.

Again, I have wondered if he could be an alternative to  Luiz Nakamba, last night at right back he showed  what a very good footballer he is.