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Author Topic: Dalian Atkinson trial  (Read 22582 times)

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #120 on: June 29, 2021, 02:54:05 PM »

Although I do accept the notion that there are crooked cops.  A society within a society and you will naturally get some bad eggs.




A few bad eggs? The Met were described as institutionally corrupt on a few weeks ago. And Cressida Dick was personally criticised for obstructing an investigation. Seems to me like more than just a few bad eggs

So every single Met Police Officer is corrupt?? Good grief….

He didn't say that.

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #121 on: June 29, 2021, 02:56:08 PM »

Although I do accept the notion that there are crooked cops.  A society within a society and you will naturally get some bad eggs.


A few bad eggs? The Met were described as institutionally corrupt on a few weeks ago. And Cressida Dick was personally criticised for obstructing an investigation. Seems to me like more than just a few bad eggs

So every single Met Police Officer is corrupt?? Good grief….

Stop falsifying my statement, officer. That’s not what I said

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #122 on: June 29, 2021, 02:56:53 PM »
What a sodding disgrace.

He’ll be out in four years.

I still wouldn't fancy four years inside. Especially if I was a former copper. Also if anyone wants to take out a racial grievance on the ex copper whilst inside he will need to watch his back on that score too. Definitely rather him that me, it could be a long four years for the guy.

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #123 on: June 29, 2021, 02:59:48 PM »
Rest in peace Dalian and thank you for some of the greatest moments of all my years following the Villa.

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #124 on: June 29, 2021, 03:07:17 PM »
I'd imagine the Sentencing Remarks will be uploaded given the public interest in the case.

Bound to be.  I'd be interested to know where eight's come from - it's a big chunk up or down from the two possible starting points.

Most likely he decided it's unusual, is going to give him what he thinks it's worth and will make the guidelines fit.

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #125 on: June 29, 2021, 03:08:57 PM »
What a sodding disgrace.

He’ll be out in four years.

I still wouldn't fancy four years inside. Especially if I was a former copper. Also if anyone wants to take out a racial grievance on the ex copper whilst inside he will need to watch his back on that score too. Definitely rather him that me, it could be a long four years for the guy.

Five years four months.

You serve two thirds now for certain offences - basically violent or sexual ones that carry life sentences.

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #126 on: June 29, 2021, 03:11:08 PM »

Although I do accept the notion that there are crooked cops.  A society within a society and you will naturally get some bad eggs.


A few bad eggs? The Met were described as institutionally corrupt on a few weeks ago. And Cressida Dick was personally criticised for obstructing an investigation. Seems to me like more than just a few bad eggs

So every single Met Police Officer is corrupt?? Good grief….

Stop falsifying my statement, officer. That’s not what I said

And I never said a few bad eggs either.

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #127 on: June 29, 2021, 03:16:21 PM »
Rest in peace Dalian and thank you for some of the greatest moments of all my years following the Villa.

Exactly this.

I was a kid and remember him signing my autograph book by the old club shop next to the trinity.
My favourite moment being his goal at Wembley when we beat Utd.

RIP Dalian

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #129 on: June 29, 2021, 03:34:25 PM »
The sentencing was on the basis that the Judge (and the jury) could not be sure that the tasering caused Dalian to be subjected to an electrical current beyond the point when the use of the taser was reasonable force. The unlawful act was therefore the kicking. As that did not of itself cause serious injury that reduced the degree of culpability. He arrived at a starting point of 6 1/2 years and then increased it to 8 years on the basis of the aggravating factors, the fact that he was a Police officer being the important one.   

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #130 on: June 29, 2021, 03:38:10 PM »
I tell you what, that's a very poorly written piece of work.

Interesting that in effect the judge has decided on the minimum sentence of 8 years within the guidelines for high culpability but adjusted down to six-and-a-half.

He must serve two thirds of the 8 years.

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #131 on: June 29, 2021, 03:39:47 PM »
Ultimately a man’s life has been lost. A man that really needed some help. A man that many of us have fond memories of so we feel this pain more than if it happened to someone we didn’t know.

The truth is it does happen all too often to men (mainly) that we don’t know. That there isn’t press coverage because someone didn’t catch it on a camera or witness it first hand. And the report that got filed was full of lies and a cover up. Leaving the families to fight the agony and for the truth long after the attention has gone away. They are left with the emptiness of it all. Seldom does it result in true justice.

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #133 on: June 29, 2021, 03:55:39 PM »
What a sodding disgrace.

He’ll be out in four years.

I still wouldn't fancy four years inside. Especially if I was a former copper. Also if anyone wants to take out a racial grievance on the ex copper whilst inside he will need to watch his back on that score too. Definitely rather him that me, it could be a long four years for the guy.

Five years four months.

You serve two thirds now for certain offences - basically violent or sexual ones that carry life sentences.

And it will never be spent, so he'll have to disclose this conviction - when asked to - for the rest of his life.

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Re: Dalian Atkinson police murder trial
« Reply #134 on: June 29, 2021, 04:05:05 PM »
BBC News - Dalian Atkinson: PC Benjamin Monk jailed for ex-footballer's death
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-57603091

 


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