Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[cdbearsfan]

If he scores another 25 goals or more, Tottenham have done well to keep him. Barring injuries, he probably will.

[KRS]

Spurs and their fans are now going to have this Kane transfer circus over their heads every transfer window until he’s sold. His statement says his staying “this summer”, so that doesn’t mean that he won’t try to force a move in January or next summer…or another club makes an offer they can’t turn down.

The Kane situation is very different to ours…the £100m release clause being met being the catalyst that effectively took the situation out of our control. Kane clearly doesn’t have a release clause, any rumoured gentleman’s agreement is purely speculation and not binding, and Levy was able to just set a ridiculously high valuation which Citeh weren’t prepared to meet. Any suggestion that Spurs and Levy have played this better than ourselves is ridiculous as the player contract scenarios are completely different.

[Dave]

My guess is Harry Kane will be part of the big centre-forward merry-go-round next summer when Haaland is available for £65m.  There will be a lot of forwards going around for free, or very little, in 2022 - if they don't all sign new contracts in the next 12 months, obviously.

Levy is a massive twat, but he's kept his best player - However, I suspect it will end up costing them an awful lot of cash when Kane goes much more cheaply next summer and they've missed out on Europe again.

Probably, but not to the extent they'll regret it. They might lose a third off the fee they might get now, but that's probably worth another 25+ goals. Put it this way, I'd rather have taken £75m plus another season of Grealish over £100m this summer.

He'll still have two years left next summer, and there are a lot of clubs who are banking on signing Haaland who won't get him and will be panicking over needing a big-name striker.

If I were a betting man, I'd be going for Mbappe staying with PSG this year, then both him and Haaland going to Real Madrid next year for a combined fee of £65m, and the other eighty-odd million they are offering PSG for Mbappe at the moment paying their wages.

Then a bidding war (tm) between the Manchesters, PSG, Bayern and Juventus for Kane who is then the most available alternative.

[OCD]

A front 2 of Mbappe and Haaland would be some pairing.

[Smithy]

My guess is Harry Kane will be part of the big centre-forward merry-go-round next summer when Haaland is available for £65m.  There will be a lot of forwards going around for free, or very little, in 2022 - if they don't all sign new contracts in the next 12 months, obviously.

Levy is a massive twat, but he's kept his best player - However, I suspect it will end up costing them an awful lot of cash when Kane goes much more cheaply next summer and they've missed out on Europe again.

Probably, but not to the extent they'll regret it. They might lose a third off the fee they might get now, but that's probably worth another 25+ goals. Put it this way, I'd rather have taken £75m plus another season of Grealish over £100m this summer.

He'll still have two years left next summer, and there are a lot of clubs who are banking on signing Haaland who won't get him and will be panicking over needing a big-name striker.

If I were a betting man, I'd be going for Mbappe staying with PSG this year, then both him and Haaland going to Real Madrid next year for a combined fee of £65m, and the other eighty-odd million they are offering PSG for Mbappe at the moment paying their wages.

Then a bidding war (tm) between the Manchesters, PSG, Bayern and Juventus for Kane who is then the most available alternative.

Ronaldo is also on a free next summer - yes he's old - but he's still capable of another couple of years at the top judging by his performances at the Euros.  Kane will be the 'expensive' one next summer, and I just don't see anyone paying over £100m for him in 12 months when Haaland, Mbappe and Ronaldo are available for free, or about half that amount.  There are only a handful of clubs that could pay that sort of money anyway, and I don't think any of them would pay that much when there are options like those three available.

I could even see Kane being at Spurs till after the World Cup, and then going pretty cheap, or even hanging on another year and going for a massive four or five-year contract on a free when he's 31.

It will be really interesting to see how he does this summer, and whether his heart isn't in it, or whether he's actually the really good professional his 'England Captain' persona appears to be.

[algy]

Didn't Kane have a "gentleman's agreement" to leave if Shitty went in for him? I just think Levy played hard-ball whereas we rolled over and had our tummy tickled!

It was clear Grealish wanted to leave and he and his agent very much made that clear to the club. It was an agreement based on a number being met. All of this is completely public. The club did what it could to keep him. Kane while wanting to leave clearly didn't have a defined number that would in essence force the hand of the club to allow him to entertaiun a move. It's not about hard ball and nothing at all to do with us rolling over. Time after time other clubs have said dealing with us has been done so respectfully, and it has allowed us to acquire good players. I don't need us acting like pricks. We have astute and highly successful individuals at the club. Do you honestly believe that they got to be that way by being soft as you are suggesting?

Yeah, absolutely this. You notice on the Barrow forums before Tuesdays game the supporters were saying how we were clearly alright as a club because of the Acorns shirt sponsorship deal thing. If we act responsibly and respectfully as a club, that sort of thing buys a lot of goodwill, and that goodwill lasts far beyond the moment. You notice people already saying how we're the model of a we'll run club now. That's the reputation we want and need.

We should aim to be, as a club, a cut above the riff raff. A distinguished club with an attitude to match.

[Risso]

I don’t really give a stuff how we act to be honest. We’ve been snaffling all the good kids in the country lately, and I bet a lot of the clubs don’t think we’ve behaved like gentlemen in so doing.

[Dave]

My guess is Harry Kane will be part of the big centre-forward merry-go-round next summer when Haaland is available for £65m.  There will be a lot of forwards going around for free, or very little, in 2022 - if they don't all sign new contracts in the next 12 months, obviously.

Levy is a massive twat, but he's kept his best player - However, I suspect it will end up costing them an awful lot of cash when Kane goes much more cheaply next summer and they've missed out on Europe again.

Probably, but not to the extent they'll regret it. They might lose a third off the fee they might get now, but that's probably worth another 25+ goals. Put it this way, I'd rather have taken £75m plus another season of Grealish over £100m this summer.

He'll still have two years left next summer, and there are a lot of clubs who are banking on signing Haaland who won't get him and will be panicking over needing a big-name striker.

If I were a betting man, I'd be going for Mbappe staying with PSG this year, then both him and Haaland going to Real Madrid next year for a combined fee of £65m, and the other eighty-odd million they are offering PSG for Mbappe at the moment paying their wages.

Then a bidding war (tm) between the Manchesters, PSG, Bayern and Juventus for Kane who is then the most available alternative.

Ronaldo is also on a free next summer - yes he's old - but he's still capable of another couple of years at the top judging by his performances at the Euros.  Kane will be the 'expensive' one next summer, and I just don't see anyone paying over £100m for him in 12 months when Haaland, Mbappe and Ronaldo are available for free, or about half that amount.  There are only a handful of clubs that could pay that sort of money anyway, and I don't think any of them would pay that much when there are options like those three available.

Problem with that though is that there will still be more clubs looking for a top striker than there will be top strikers available.

Man City will still have their Kane-hole to fill. Man Utd will have wrung the last out of Cavani. Juve and PSG will need to replace the ones who are leaving. Lewandowski will be 34 and Bayern are normally pretty sensible in planning ahead. If two of the four end up at Real (and they want both, can get them both cheaply and both are pretty well-known as wanting to go there), it leaves Ronaldo and Kane to go around the rest.

It makes Chelsea's purchase of Lukaku this summer look ever more sensible in just sitting the next one out.

[LeeB]

My guess is Harry Kane will be part of the big centre-forward merry-go-round next summer when Haaland is available for £65m.  There will be a lot of forwards going around for free, or very little, in 2022 - if they don't all sign new contracts in the next 12 months, obviously.

Levy is a massive twat, but he's kept his best player - However, I suspect it will end up costing them an awful lot of cash when Kane goes much more cheaply next summer and they've missed out on Europe again.

Probably, but not to the extent they'll regret it. They might lose a third off the fee they might get now, but that's probably worth another 25+ goals. Put it this way, I'd rather have taken £75m plus another season of Grealish over £100m this summer.

He'll still have two years left next summer, and there are a lot of clubs who are banking on signing Haaland who won't get him and will be panicking over needing a big-name striker.

If I were a betting man, I'd be going for Mbappe staying with PSG this year, then both him and Haaland going to Real Madrid next year for a combined fee of £65m, and the other eighty-odd million they are offering PSG for Mbappe at the moment paying their wages.

Then a bidding war (tm) between the Manchesters, PSG, Bayern and Juventus for Kane who is then the most available alternative.

Ronaldo is also on a free next summer - yes he's old - but he's still capable of another couple of years at the top judging by his performances at the Euros.  Kane will be the 'expensive' one next summer, and I just don't see anyone paying over £100m for him in 12 months when Haaland, Mbappe and Ronaldo are available for free, or about half that amount.  There are only a handful of clubs that could pay that sort of money anyway, and I don't think any of them would pay that much when there are options like those three available.

Problem with that though is that there will still be more clubs looking for a top striker than there will be top strikers available.

Man City will still have their Kane-hole to fill. Man Utd will have wrung the last out of Cavani. Juve and PSG will need to replace the ones who are leaving. Lewandowski will be 34 and Bayern are normally pretty sensible in planning ahead. If two of the four end up at Real (and they want both, can get them both cheaply and both are pretty well-known as wanting to go there), it leaves Ronaldo and Kane to go around the rest.

It makes Chelsea's purchase of Lukaku this summer look ever more sensible in just sitting the next one out.

I also think he's the best, most complete of them all.

[ozzjim]

Although most have said how will we have behaved when taking serious youngsters

[TelfordVilla]

Big queue to buy Watkins next summer. I hope he hasn't got a release  clause.

[robleflaneur]

Wouldn't surprise me if Ronaldo moves to Citeh before the deadline.On ridiculous wages at Juve and didn't start in the opening game.
Ings 25-30m ,absolute bargain.

[DrGonzo]

I said way back in this thread that our owners are first and foremost businessmen running, what they hope will become, a succesful business.  Most businesses spend time generating goodwill within their operating sphere, something we are clearly trying to do.  If you treat somebody like a total prick, then you can only expect that attitude to be turned towards you, not only by the target but by others in the same world also. 

[ozzjim]

Surely if he comes back to the UK, commercially United won't pass it up. He pays his fee and wages in commercial deals overnight.

[Mister E]

I don’t really give a stuff how we act to be honest. We’ve been snaffling all the good kids in the country lately, and I bet a lot of the clubs don’t think we’ve behaved like gentlemen in so doing.

I seem to remember the people at Exeter and Bristol Rovers saying we'd acted very honourably earlier in the year.
WBA probably don't think so, though.