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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2021, 05:44:34 PM »
7th -11th make no sence whatsoever.
That’s a shite place anyway for a Club like us. We need to be in the top 5.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2021, 05:50:34 PM by olaftab »

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2021, 06:02:34 PM »
Why’s everyone so concerned as to how big we are.   We are Villa that’s my only thought

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2021, 06:07:57 PM »
7th -11th make no sence whatsoever.
That’s a shite place anyway for a Club like us. We need to be in the top 5.
To be fair weve won pretty much nothing in the last 25 yrs, so think 7th is fair on us.

But weve been a damn sight more successful than Newcastle since their last trophy win 70odd years back

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2021, 07:02:57 PM »
Wolves and Newcastle appear to be above us largely based on the big disparity of scores for "trophies won in the last 20 years".  Everton and ourselves have been given 48, a poor score, Wolves 10, a good score, and Newcastle 17, a decent sore. 

Unless I've missed something they must be counting lower division championship wins or something because as far as I know Wolves haven't won anything of note for about 40 years and Newcastle for around 50 years.   If they're counting those what about our bloody intertoto and palyoff trophy?

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2021, 07:09:11 PM »
Wolves and Newcastle appear to be above us largely based on the big disparity of scores for "trophies won in the last 20 years".  Everton and ourselves have been given 48, a poor score, Wolves 10, a good score, and Newcastle 17, a decent sore. 

Unless I've missed something they must be counting lower division championship wins or something because as far as I know Wolves haven't won anything of note for about 40 years and Newcastle for around 50 years.   If they're counting those what about our bloody intertoto and palyoff trophy?

Don't forget The Peace Cup.

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2021, 09:34:35 AM »
7th -11th make no sence whatsoever.
That’s a shite place anyway for a Club like us. We need to be in the top 5.
To be fair weve won pretty much nothing in the last 25 yrs, so think 7th is fair on us.

But weve been a damn sight more successful than Newcastle since their last trophy win 70odd years back
Yes it’s not winning trophies the reason for my comment. We really need to get serious about both cups and in the short term make them our prime target and not worrying about League position.

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2021, 10:01:04 AM »
We really are serious about the cups. We played in the final of one less than a year ago.

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2021, 10:24:27 AM »
Yes but losing to Stoke City was not good and we should have made more of an issue to postpone   the FA cup tie instead of giving Liverpool a virtual walk over.

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2021, 10:31:44 AM »
Sorry but we are no longer a big club other than regionally. Go outside and we have pockets of fans everywhere in the globe but nothing compared to some, which correlates to trophies won. Plus we had a lost decade which has only just finished (6 months or so ago)

ManU
Liverpool
Arsenal
Chelsea
Citeh
Spuds

Then I'd put us in with Everton and Newcastle and West Ham

Ahead of Wolves, Derby, Forest, Leicester (big recent climber) - painfully I'd probably put them in that rank for Midlands teams with Sunderland, Leeds (nigh on 2 decades lost), Wednesday

Then Southampton, Norwich and Brighton representing the provinces.

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2021, 10:40:49 AM »
West Ham and Newcastle aren't in the 1, 2, 3 with a club like us or Everton.

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2021, 10:59:30 AM »
The biggest clubs are in the Champions League, the next level are regulars in the  Premier League. We're not in the first, we're not yet back in the second. Cups are irrelevant. The best indicator of size is to walk around a non-football town and count the replica shirts, something we've never done particularly well at.

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2021, 11:46:32 AM »
The biggest clubs are in the Champions League, the next level are regulars in the  Premier League. We're not in the first, we're not yet back in the second. Cups are irrelevant. The best indicator of size is to walk around a non-football town and count the replica shirts, something we've never done particularly well at.

And worryingly (and annoyingly) I see UEFA are trying to stitch up Champs League membership with a points system should any of their elite not make the top 4 domestically! In other words if we finished 4th and Arse finished 7th they would take our place because of their CL points history....... it’s just corrupt

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2021, 11:49:30 AM »
The biggest clubs are in the Champions League, the next level are regulars in the  Premier League. We're not in the first, we're not yet back in the second. Cups are irrelevant. The best indicator of size is to walk around a non-football town and count the replica shirts, something we've never done particularly well at.

And worryingly (and annoyingly) I see UEFA are trying to stitch up Champs League membership with a points system should any of their elite not make the top 4 domestically! In other words if we finished 4th and Arse finished 7th they would take our place because of their CL points history....... it’s just corrupt

I feel like it won't work though, as we have a top 6 at least that won't want to miss out to each other. We'll see though. The principle is abominable.

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2021, 12:21:34 PM »
The point is though you cannot take it for granted as we have. Ellis let us drift as slowly the game modernised and then totally passed us by. With a couple of seasons under Lerner apart, we turned into a shambles and were deservedly relegated.

The professionalism we see at every level of the club now, is night and day from at any point in the clubs hisotry. The problem is, we've given traditionally smaller clubs a 20 year head start. With the financial backing we have now, this is for the first time in a long time where the ambition of this club is unchecked.

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Re: Big Clubs Ranked Article
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2021, 04:19:59 PM »
The point is though you cannot take it for granted as we have. Ellis let us drift as slowly the game modernised and then totally passed us by. With a couple of seasons under Lerner apart, we turned into a shambles and were deservedly relegated.

The professionalism we see at every level of the club now, is night and day from at any point in the clubs hisotry. The problem is, we've given traditionally smaller clubs a 20 year head start. With the financial backing we have now, this is for the first time in a long time where the ambition of this club is unchecked.


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