7th -11th make no sence whatsoever.
Quote from: luke95 on February 09, 2021, 09:13:31 PM7th -11th make no sence whatsoever.That’s a shite place anyway for a Club like us. We need to be in the top 5.
Wolves and Newcastle appear to be above us largely based on the big disparity of scores for "trophies won in the last 20 years". Everton and ourselves have been given 48, a poor score, Wolves 10, a good score, and Newcastle 17, a decent sore. Unless I've missed something they must be counting lower division championship wins or something because as far as I know Wolves haven't won anything of note for about 40 years and Newcastle for around 50 years. If they're counting those what about our bloody intertoto and palyoff trophy?
Quote from: olaftab on February 10, 2021, 05:44:34 PMQuote from: luke95 on February 09, 2021, 09:13:31 PM7th -11th make no sence whatsoever.That’s a shite place anyway for a Club like us. We need to be in the top 5.To be fair weve won pretty much nothing in the last 25 yrs, so think 7th is fair on us. But weve been a damn sight more successful than Newcastle since their last trophy win 70odd years back
The biggest clubs are in the Champions League, the next level are regulars in the Premier League. We're not in the first, we're not yet back in the second. Cups are irrelevant. The best indicator of size is to walk around a non-football town and count the replica shirts, something we've never done particularly well at.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 11, 2021, 10:59:30 AMThe biggest clubs are in the Champions League, the next level are regulars in the Premier League. We're not in the first, we're not yet back in the second. Cups are irrelevant. The best indicator of size is to walk around a non-football town and count the replica shirts, something we've never done particularly well at. And worryingly (and annoyingly) I see UEFA are trying to stitch up Champs League membership with a points system should any of their elite not make the top 4 domestically! In other words if we finished 4th and Arse finished 7th they would take our place because of their CL points history....... it’s just corrupt
The point is though you cannot take it for granted as we have. Ellis let us drift as slowly the game modernised and then totally passed us by. With a couple of seasons under Lerner apart, we turned into a shambles and were deservedly relegated.The professionalism we see at every level of the club now, is night and day from at any point in the clubs hisotry. The problem is, we've given traditionally smaller clubs a 20 year head start. With the financial backing we have now, this is for the first time in a long time where the ambition of this club is unchecked.