Big Clubs Ranked Article

[IFWaters]

Found this little gem .....

https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-news-top-10s-the-40-biggest-clubs-in-england-have-been-named-and-ranked-20201206

And apparently we come in .....10th !!!

BEHIND ..... Wolves !!!!

And laughably ahead of West Brom in 12th and SHA in 19th (who are ahead of Forest and Derby - both league winners)

To me the 20 biggest clubs in England are, in this order ...

1. Liverpool
2. Man Utd
3. Arsenal
4. Spurs
5. Man City
6. Chelsea
7. Newcastle
8. Villa
9. Everton
10. Leeds
11. West Ham
12. Forest
13. Sheff Weds
14. Sunderland
15. Leicester
16. West Brom
17. Derby
18. Wolves
19. Sheff Utd
20 Southampton

I have to say my list is based on what feels right, over the last 40+ years. I know a Brighton fan might have an issue with it but they just havent served their time yet

If I had the time, I would work it out based on 5 criteria :

1. Trophy Cabinet - with more points for league title than domestic cup - basically your pedigree & history - Ranked
2. Stadium Size + Average Attendance - you have to have a big ground & fill it - Ranked
3. Turnover - who is the biggest business - Ranked
4. Squad quality - either by using Transfermarkt squad value or total caps - Ranked
5. League Form - Average league place in last 5 years - Ranked

Add up the totals and whoever gets the lowest is first, just like the article does it. I havent the rime to do it but I think we would be about 7th or 8th. Any other offers on who the top 20 or top 10 are ?

[Toronto Villa]

Below Newcastle? I think not.

[DrGonzo]

Well, one person's opinion of a stats database is their opinion.  In the immortal words of our legendary pub landlord "Not news!"

[eamonn]

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[BC Villain]

Below Newcastle? I think not.

If there was ever a club thats used the Premier League years to reinvent itself then its Newcastle.

[Toronto Villa]

Below Newcastle? I think not.

If there was ever a club thats used the Premier League years to reinvent itself then its Newcastle.

I looked up All Fart No Shit in the Oxford English Dictionary just now and it just had the Newcastle United crest next to it. No words.

[cdbearsfan]

When someone posts a shit article for clicks, best not to give them the clicks.

FWIW:

Liverpool and Man U are about joint first, followed by Arsenal.

Depressingly, Chelsea have probably overtaken us and Man City are close. They will do when they've won the European Cup.

Tottenham and Everton are behind us but not by a million miles.

Nobody else comes near to us.

As for our "rivals":

Wolves are bigger than West Brom but there isn't much in it.

Both of them are much bigger than Blose.

Blose are bigger than Coventry but there isn't much in it.

[Damo70]

Below Newcastle? I think not.

If there was ever a club thats used the Premier League years to reinvent itself then its Newcastle.

A number of clubs reinvented themselves as 'big clubs' around the start of the Premier league. Leeds, Newcastle, Blackburn. All of which were newly promoted, had momentum and were challenging the established clubs and spending lots of cash. You could include us too after our disappointing mid eighties period. Spurs and Everton struggled around that time so they were less appealing to the top players. Liverpool and Arsenal were the big two for a while and then Manure got their act together. Money talks obviously and at various stages the clubs splashing the cash were us to some extent under Big Ron and Newcastle. Sheffield Wednesday had a decent side and splashed the cash for a while too. Then suddenly Chelsea became bigger than they ever had been before. You could probably throw Boro into that mix for a short time too.

[luke95]

7th -11th make no sence whatsoever.

[Sdwbvf]

Leeds and Newcastle get the attendances. Well they do now. When at university I went to St James Park a few times 1992/3. Can’t remember the first game but there were only 17000 there and it was 6 quid when Villa was 7. Then there was the FA Cup game against Bournemouth. Half price because game was abandoned the previous week. Capacity 30000 attendance 26000.

Then Kevin Keegan and all of a sudden they all come out of the woodwork.

[ChicagoLion]

'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and Manure due to their trophy winning history and global fan base are the big 2 as far as I am concerned.
Citeh and Chelsea have paid cash to try for big club status but like class you can not buy it.
After that there really is not much in it between us Spuds Everton Arse, I have never really considered Newcastle as a big club because they have done virtually nothing in the last 50 years despite having a big ground and decent support.
We are finally challenging those 7 again.

[richtheholtender]

When someone posts a shit article for clicks, best not to give them the clicks.

FWIW:

Liverpool and Man U are about joint first, followed by Arsenal.

Depressingly, Chelsea have probably overtaken us and Man City are close. They will do when they've won the European Cup.

Tottenham and Everton are behind us but not by a million miles.

Nobody else comes near to us.

As for our "rivals":

Wolves are bigger than West Brom but there isn't much in it.

Both of them are much bigger than Blose.

Blose are bigger than Coventry but there isn't much in it.

This pretty much nails it. There is a massive difference that people miss between size of club and current quality of team. I would have us in 5th at the minute behind Liverpool, United, Arsenal and Chelsea.

[algy]

When someone posts a shit article for clicks, best not to give them the clicks.

FWIW:

Liverpool and Man U are about joint first, followed by Arsenal.

Depressingly, Chelsea have probably overtaken us and Man City are close. They will do when they've won the European Cup.

Tottenham and Everton are behind us but not by a million miles.

Nobody else comes near to us.

As for our "rivals":

Wolves are bigger than West Brom but there isn't much in it.

Both of them are much bigger than Blose.

Blose are bigger than Coventry but there isn't much in it.

Yeah, this is it for me too.  Generally judge it on simply - if they suddenly had no money at all, what's the best level of players they could attract?  For me, that puts Man Utd & Liverpool at the top of the tree with Arsenal a little way behind.  I reckon it's then probably us & Spurs about level, then Everton.  There's a big drop off after them.

Not having it that either Chelsea or Manchester City would at all relevant to us if they weren't funded to a ridiculous degree.  They'd be like Blackburn post-Jack Walker.  Hang around the top for a few seasons, but over time work themselves back down to their natural level at yo-yo sides between the top 2 divisions.

[AV82EC]

I really think we need to stop being so sniffy about Chelski and Oil Barons FC as we've just had £400m pumped into us over the last 2 seasons, we're hardly whiter than white when it comes to having rich owners!

[ASHTONVILLA]

I'd split into groups of approximately equal-sized clubs. Have to start with Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal who all have big historic support and have won trophies in pretty much every decade in living memory.

1. Manchester United
2. Liverpool
3. Arsenal

Then I'd place us Spurs and Chelsea. Spurs are a well supported team that have not had the sustained success in my lifetime that the three above had, but are still a famous and well followed team. Chelsea I have a similar opinion to John Gregory on, but they have been winning a lot for two decades now and have a big fan base even if it is 'Johnny come lately'.

4. Spurs
5. Villa
6. Chelsea

 The next batch are historic well-supported teams, that haven't won much other than in fits and bursts. Man City are now knocking on the door of the group above, but I didn't put them there as despite spunking ludicrous amounts of money they are still not as well followed as the group above. Take the cash away and they would be banging up and down the divisions again.

7. Newcastle
8. Man City
9. Sheffield Wednesday
10. Leeds
11. Everton

The rest are all among the better supported but don't win much and never will teams.

12. Derby County
13. Sunderland
14. Nottingham Forest
15. Wolves
16. WBA
17. Southampton
18. West Ham
19. Sheffield United
20. Norwich City