Can we hire one of those planes to fly over the stadium in the second half of our next match, with the message "Make a bloody sub, Dean"?
Quote from: brontebilly on January 31, 2021, 11:18:05 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 31, 2021, 10:30:24 AMQuote from: brontebilly on January 31, 2021, 09:53:38 AMQuote from: Smithy on January 31, 2021, 09:31:55 AMQuote from: lovejoy on January 31, 2021, 09:23:28 AMI’m not sure about Traore, he seems like an icing on the cake player whereas we often need a player to help us grind out victories.In games like last night, definitely. But at times, especially when we have a decent chunk of possession, he looks like a massive threat, and is scoring goals. I suspect if we'd started Trez for his higher work rate and protection for Cash we might have considered the set-up 'negative' as it's 'only Southampton'.It is important that the first 11 don't start to believe they will start regardless of the level of performance, we want them absolutely convinced a drop-off in their levels will see a return to the bench - not sure we have that right now?Definitely not. If Smith doesn't give the backup players minutes he will lose them eventually. No excuse for it last night. The selection against West Ham will be interesting. You seem to be going out of your way to find excuses to moan. If he had brought subs on and we'd conceded a couple of goals, presumably you'd have been happy with his decision?Didn't realise bringing subs on would have automatically led us to conceding a couple of goals ...Is there any chance fresh legs might have helped us keep possession better or pressed Southampton harder in the last 20 mins? They wouldn't have got us a better result, which is the only thing you can say for certain.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 31, 2021, 10:30:24 AMQuote from: brontebilly on January 31, 2021, 09:53:38 AMQuote from: Smithy on January 31, 2021, 09:31:55 AMQuote from: lovejoy on January 31, 2021, 09:23:28 AMI’m not sure about Traore, he seems like an icing on the cake player whereas we often need a player to help us grind out victories.In games like last night, definitely. But at times, especially when we have a decent chunk of possession, he looks like a massive threat, and is scoring goals. I suspect if we'd started Trez for his higher work rate and protection for Cash we might have considered the set-up 'negative' as it's 'only Southampton'.It is important that the first 11 don't start to believe they will start regardless of the level of performance, we want them absolutely convinced a drop-off in their levels will see a return to the bench - not sure we have that right now?Definitely not. If Smith doesn't give the backup players minutes he will lose them eventually. No excuse for it last night. The selection against West Ham will be interesting. You seem to be going out of your way to find excuses to moan. If he had brought subs on and we'd conceded a couple of goals, presumably you'd have been happy with his decision?Didn't realise bringing subs on would have automatically led us to conceding a couple of goals ...Is there any chance fresh legs might have helped us keep possession better or pressed Southampton harder in the last 20 mins?
Quote from: brontebilly on January 31, 2021, 09:53:38 AMQuote from: Smithy on January 31, 2021, 09:31:55 AMQuote from: lovejoy on January 31, 2021, 09:23:28 AMI’m not sure about Traore, he seems like an icing on the cake player whereas we often need a player to help us grind out victories.In games like last night, definitely. But at times, especially when we have a decent chunk of possession, he looks like a massive threat, and is scoring goals. I suspect if we'd started Trez for his higher work rate and protection for Cash we might have considered the set-up 'negative' as it's 'only Southampton'.It is important that the first 11 don't start to believe they will start regardless of the level of performance, we want them absolutely convinced a drop-off in their levels will see a return to the bench - not sure we have that right now?Definitely not. If Smith doesn't give the backup players minutes he will lose them eventually. No excuse for it last night. The selection against West Ham will be interesting. You seem to be going out of your way to find excuses to moan. If he had brought subs on and we'd conceded a couple of goals, presumably you'd have been happy with his decision?
Quote from: Smithy on January 31, 2021, 09:31:55 AMQuote from: lovejoy on January 31, 2021, 09:23:28 AMI’m not sure about Traore, he seems like an icing on the cake player whereas we often need a player to help us grind out victories.In games like last night, definitely. But at times, especially when we have a decent chunk of possession, he looks like a massive threat, and is scoring goals. I suspect if we'd started Trez for his higher work rate and protection for Cash we might have considered the set-up 'negative' as it's 'only Southampton'.It is important that the first 11 don't start to believe they will start regardless of the level of performance, we want them absolutely convinced a drop-off in their levels will see a return to the bench - not sure we have that right now?Definitely not. If Smith doesn't give the backup players minutes he will lose them eventually. No excuse for it last night. The selection against West Ham will be interesting.
Quote from: lovejoy on January 31, 2021, 09:23:28 AMI’m not sure about Traore, he seems like an icing on the cake player whereas we often need a player to help us grind out victories.In games like last night, definitely. But at times, especially when we have a decent chunk of possession, he looks like a massive threat, and is scoring goals. I suspect if we'd started Trez for his higher work rate and protection for Cash we might have considered the set-up 'negative' as it's 'only Southampton'.It is important that the first 11 don't start to believe they will start regardless of the level of performance, we want them absolutely convinced a drop-off in their levels will see a return to the bench - not sure we have that right now?
I’m not sure about Traore, he seems like an icing on the cake player whereas we often need a player to help us grind out victories.
It's because a slight readjustment is needed when a substitution is made that makes it necessary to not leave them until it's too late for them to have any effect.
A small observation. Ings didn't get a look-in apart from the offside goal. Yes, he mugged Luiz befor the penalty shout; and he had a speculative shot in the second half. But he was self-contained... a measure of our defensive capabilities.
Quote from: Flamingo Lane on January 31, 2021, 04:00:17 PMIt's because a slight readjustment is needed when a substitution is made that makes it necessary to not leave them until it's too late for them to have any effect.I thought Trez should of come on for Traore, but what do I know. Smith thought otherwise, we won away against a very good side. On the basis of that alone, Smiths game management was proved correct.
Quote from: RamboandBruno on January 31, 2021, 04:54:59 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on January 31, 2021, 04:00:17 PMIt's because a slight readjustment is needed when a substitution is made that makes it necessary to not leave them until it's too late for them to have any effect.I thought Trez should of come on for Traore, but what do I know. Smith thought otherwise, we won away against a very good side. On the basis of that alone, Smiths game management was proved correct.Exactly.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on January 31, 2021, 05:28:04 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on January 31, 2021, 04:54:59 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on January 31, 2021, 04:00:17 PMIt's because a slight readjustment is needed when a substitution is made that makes it necessary to not leave them until it's too late for them to have any effect.I thought Trez should of come on for Traore, but what do I know. Smith thought otherwise, we won away against a very good side. On the basis of that alone, Smiths game management was proved correct.Exactly. Quite right. 3 points is all the proof I need on Smith’s call. I’m still baffled by someone on here rating Smith a 4 for his performance yesterday.
Quote from: Ian. on January 31, 2021, 05:31:55 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on January 31, 2021, 05:28:04 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on January 31, 2021, 04:54:59 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on January 31, 2021, 04:00:17 PMIt's because a slight readjustment is needed when a substitution is made that makes it necessary to not leave them until it's too late for them to have any effect.I thought Trez should of come on for Traore, but what do I know. Smith thought otherwise, we won away against a very good side. On the basis of that alone, Smiths game management was proved correct.Exactly. Quite right. 3 points is all the proof I need on Smith’s call. I’m still baffled by someone on here rating Smith a 4 for his performance yesterday.Really? I must've missed that. Jesus wept
Quote from: The Edge on January 31, 2021, 05:40:32 PMQuote from: Ian. on January 31, 2021, 05:31:55 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on January 31, 2021, 05:28:04 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on January 31, 2021, 04:54:59 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on January 31, 2021, 04:00:17 PMIt's because a slight readjustment is needed when a substitution is made that makes it necessary to not leave them until it's too late for them to have any effect.I thought Trez should of come on for Traore, but what do I know. Smith thought otherwise, we won away against a very good side. On the basis of that alone, Smiths game management was proved correct.Exactly. Quite right. 3 points is all the proof I need on Smith’s call. I’m still baffled by someone on here rating Smith a 4 for his performance yesterday.Really? I must've missed that. Jesus wept I know! We won, a smash and grab maybe but sometimes you just have to enjoy the moment.We play some wonderful football at times and even yesterday when at times were really up against it but we’re still great to watch. We dig in, we press, niggle away and then attack with such a force. What’s not to like?