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Offline Brazilian Villain

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2790 on: October 11, 2024, 11:27:11 PM »
Could we move this non-Ross Barkley discussion from the main service board to the relevant place in other? With all due respect, this is unrelated and is entirely about films or books without mentioning Ross.

Al Pacino starred in all 3 Godfather films, as well as Glengarry Glen Ross.

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2791 on: October 11, 2024, 11:30:14 PM »
I rate GF2 just ahead of GF1, mainly because of the story of Vito (and Clemenza).


I imagine the ‘glaring inaccuracy’ in GF isn’t Apollonia getting the days of the week in the wrong order. 😊

Haha, no. It’s more to do with Cosa Nostra structure. It would only bother a few sad pedants,  myself included.

For a start, there’s no way a non-Italian could ever be consigliere, but the main thing is that the Corleone family isn’t one of the five families. That’s just ridiculous.

See, I told you it wouldn’t bother you.

I’ve read before ( I think comments on IMDb) about the unlikely appointment of Tom Hagen as consigliere. 
Perhaps Mario Puzo may have known someone irl who filled this role for a Don, for a time.

No chance.
Bit wild as a suggestion, I admit.

Anyway, Goodfellas….




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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2792 on: October 12, 2024, 12:14:04 AM »
I rate GF2 just ahead of GF1, mainly because of the story of Vito (and Clemenza).


I imagine the ‘glaring inaccuracy’ in GF isn’t Apollonia getting the days of the week in the wrong order. 😊

Haha, no. It’s more to do with Cosa Nostra structure. It would only bother a few sad pedants,  myself included.

For a start, there’s no way a non-Italian could ever be consigliere, but the main thing is that the Corleone family isn’t one of the five families. That’s just ridiculous.

See, I told you it wouldn’t bother you.

I’ve read before ( I think comments on IMDb) about the unlikely appointment of Tom Hagen as consigliere. 
Perhaps Mario Puzo may have known someone irl who filled this role for a Don, for a time.

No chance.
Bit wild as a suggestion, I admit.

Anyway, Goodfellas….

The true story of the Lufthansa heist and the huge Vario crew, part of the Lucchese crime family, which is still active, as is that particular crew. The story is told through the lives of Jimmy ‘The Gent’ Burke (incredibly traumatic childhood) Tommy Di Simone, and Karen and Henry Hill etc. The Lufthansa heist was probably the biggest robbery in US history, the last of the money only recently partly gambled away and partly invested in a failed animation film, by the current consigliere of the Bonnano crime family, Angelo ‘Bruno’ Indelacotta, husband to one of Jimmy The Gent’s two daughters, who inherited the spoils. Bruno was meant to be killed in the legendary ‘three capos hit’ featured in Donnie Brasco, and was part of the crew that assassinated then-Bonnano boss Carmine Galante - you may have seen a fairly famous photograph of Galante dead in a pool of blood with his cigar still in his clenched teeth.

There were 12 murders in the aftermath of the robbery as Jimmy and his friends tried to silence anybody who might harm their chances of getting away with it.

Great film, incredible story, and there’s lots more to it that’s not depicted in the film.
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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2793 on: October 12, 2024, 01:19:01 AM »
I rate GF2 just ahead of GF1, mainly because of the story of Vito (and Clemenza).


I imagine the ‘glaring inaccuracy’ in GF isn’t Apollonia getting the days of the week in the wrong order. 😊

Haha, no. It’s more to do with Cosa Nostra structure. It would only bother a few sad pedants,  myself included.

For a start, there’s no way a non-Italian could ever be consigliere, but the main thing is that the Corleone family isn’t one of the five families. That’s just ridiculous.

See, I told you it wouldn’t bother you.

I’ve read before ( I think comments on IMDb) about the unlikely appointment of Tom Hagen as consigliere. 
Perhaps Mario Puzo may have known someone irl who filled this role for a Don, for a time.

No chance.
Bit wild as a suggestion, I admit.

Anyway, Goodfellas….

The true story of the Lufthansa heist and the huge Vario crew, part of the Lucchese crime family, which is still active, as is that particular crew. The story is told through the lives of Jimmy ‘The Gent’ Burke (incredibly traumatic childhood) Tommy Di Simone, and Karen and Henry Hill etc. The Lufthansa heist was probably the biggest robbery in US history, the last of the money only recently partly gambled away and partly invested in a failed animation film, by the current consigliere of the Bonnano crime family, Angelo ‘Bruno’ Indelacotta, husband to one of Jimmy The Gent’s two daughters, who inherited the spoils. Bruno was meant to be killed in the legendary ‘three capos hit’ featured in Donnie Brasco, and was part of the crew that assassinated then-Bonnano boss Carmine Galante - you may have seen a fairly famous photograph of Galante dead in a pool of blood with his cigar still in his clenched teeth.

There were 12 murders in the aftermath of the robbery as Jimmy and his friends tried to silence anybody who might harm their chances of getting away with it.

Great film, incredible story, and there’s lots more to it that’s not depicted in the film.

I had no idea it was based on a true story. Apologies if it starts with those words, I completely forgot them during the film, and since!
Looking at the cast, though, I’m reminded there was some stunning talent involved.



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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2794 on: October 12, 2024, 02:07:30 AM »
No more quotathons please!

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2795 on: October 12, 2024, 02:13:03 AM »
I rate GF2 just ahead of GF1, mainly because of the story of Vito (and Clemenza).


I imagine the ‘glaring inaccuracy’ in GF isn’t Apollonia getting the days of the week in the wrong order. 😊

Haha, no. It’s more to do with Cosa Nostra structure. It would only bother a few sad pedants,  myself included.

For a start, there’s no way a non-Italian could ever be consigliere, but the main thing is that the Corleone family isn’t one of the five families. That’s just ridiculous.

See, I told you it wouldn’t bother you.

I’ve read before ( I think comments on IMDb) about the unlikely appointment of Tom Hagen as consigliere. 
Perhaps Mario Puzo may have known someone irl who filled this role for a Don, for a time.

No chance.
Bit wild as a suggestion, I admit.

Anyway, Goodfellas….

The true story of the Lufthansa heist and the huge Vario crew, part of the Lucchese crime family, which is still active, as is that particular crew. The story is told through the lives of Jimmy ‘The Gent’ Burke (incredibly traumatic childhood) Tommy Di Simone, and Karen and Henry Hill etc. The Lufthansa heist was probably the biggest robbery in US history, the last of the money only recently partly gambled away and partly invested in a failed animation film, by the current consigliere of the Bonnano crime family, Angelo ‘Bruno’ Indelacotta, husband to one of Jimmy The Gent’s two daughters, who inherited the spoils. Bruno was meant to be killed in the legendary ‘three capos hit’ featured in Donnie Brasco, and was part of the crew that assassinated then-Bonnano boss Carmine Galante - you may have seen a fairly famous photograph of Galante dead in a pool of blood with his cigar still in his clenched teeth.

There were 12 murders in the aftermath of the robbery as Jimmy and his friends tried to silence anybody who might harm their chances of getting away with it.

Great film, incredible story, and there’s lots more to it that’s not depicted in the film.

I had no idea it was based on a true story. Apologies if it starts with those words, I completely forgot them during the film, and since!
Looking at the cast, though, I’m reminded there was some stunning talent involved.

No need to apologise Lou. Very accurate film, apart from Billy Bats wasn’t made, and Karen was having an affair with Paul Vario (Paulie Cicero in the film), and was sexually assaulted by Tommy Di Simone (Tommy De Vito in the film - Joe Pesci’s character) which they left out, probably because it was all based on her husband’s version of the story.

Other true stories of the mob:

Donnie Brasco
Casino
Gotti* (HBO 1996 version - avoid the Travolta one at all costs)
The Youngest Godfather*
Witness to the Mob*
Boss of Bosses*
Rob The Mob
Kill The Irishman
Black Mass
Bugsy
Honor Thy Father*

*Available on YouTube

The Irishman purports to be true but it’s so inaccurate I can’t add it to the list.

Anyway, Ross is the Boss. Ok footie?

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2796 on: October 12, 2024, 02:14:23 AM »

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2797 on: October 12, 2024, 03:45:55 AM »
No more quotathons please!

Sorry!
Don’t be sorry, Percy. Your expertise in this area is fascinating.

Signed - Ross Barkley🤣🤣

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2798 on: October 12, 2024, 03:51:50 AM »
No more quotathons please!

Sorry!
Don’t be sorry, Percy. Your expertise in this area is fascinating.

Signed - Ross Barkley🤣🤣


Ah, thanks Chap. I really appreciate those kind words about me and my hobby.

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2799 on: October 12, 2024, 03:54:42 AM »
And if Footy has his way I would miss them as I rarely venture to the Off topic page. This is what makes this site so much fun.

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2800 on: October 12, 2024, 04:02:50 AM »
Could we move this non-Ross Barkley discussion from the main service board to the relevant place in other? With all due respect, this is unrelated and is entirely about films or books without mentioning Ross.

Al Pacino starred in all 3 Godfather films, as well as Glengarry Glen Ross.


Coffee is for closers. I always thought this was quite sinister.

Dennis Amiss and Bill Edrich would have never got a good cup of Joe on that basis. 

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« Reply #2801 on: October 12, 2024, 06:44:34 AM »
Just wanted to add, the HBO film Gotti is so good that when I picture the Teflon Don in my minds eye I think instead of the actor who plays him in the film.

My favourite bit is when someone who was beaten up by Gotti appears in court. By this time however, he has discovered who the accused truly is, and pretends he’s never seen him before, except on the news or in the papers.

The headline in one of the New York papers the next day?

“I FORGOTTI”.

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2802 on: October 12, 2024, 09:12:43 AM »
The bit in the Goodfellas where he takes Karen into the club through a kitchen entrance and the camera follows him in a single take, is superb cinema.

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2803 on: October 12, 2024, 09:29:44 AM »
Keep going Perce, it's a very interesting subject.  I'm currently watching Mafia's Greatest Hits on PBS, a thirteen-part series on Mafia hit men, Gotti, Spilotro et al.  I think it's not that new but great nonetheless.  Recommended.

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Re: Ross Barkley
« Reply #2804 on: October 12, 2024, 09:32:21 AM »
Goodfellas is an absolute masterpiece.
Some of the interviews with the real Henry Hill on you tube are quite interesting.

 


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