West Ham United vs Aston Villa STAYING UP!!!! - Post Match Thread

[Brazilian Villain]

Leeds popularity would go back to the Giles days but I don't think Leeds would be a traditional home of Irish ex Pat's in Britain unlike Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester.

Arsenal had a number of Irish players back in the 70s/80s like Brady, Stapleton, O'Leary, Jennings, Rice....back at the time when Highbury/Holloway road was the epicentre of Irish ex pats in London.

Im not sure Celtic are as popular as they once were. Huge Donegal/Glasgow connection aside (Houghton, McGeady, McCarthy, Bonner even Given) . Sign of the times with the decline of the Scottish league and it's profile maybe.

If only Grealish had stayed in green, a resurgent Villa support across the Irish Sea would have been inevitable! Ticked a lot of boxes too, GAA background, bit of a rebel off the pitch and obviously once in a generation player. Rice/Grealish midfield would have eased a lot of future qualification worries.

Think quite a few went to Leeds and still do e.g. there's still an Irish Centre there. Apparently it's mainly from Mayo and the west. All the Leeds fans I know though are in the 55-65 range so more to do with Giles and the Revie era.

Back in the day I had a soft spot for Arsenal for the same reason but went off them from the mid-90s on when Wenger developed selective blindness.

With the Premier League Celtic may have declined as people's first choice but only they and Liverpool have stores in Dublin City centre. The Celtic one's been there for ages (the Man U closed after 2 years) so there must be a decent amount of support.

Agree re Grealish and was gutted when he and Rice switched and they may well yet rue it. Missed out on Harry Kane and Rooney too. As Kilbane put it at the time it depends on the family e.g. in his case it was always going to be Ireland and would be the same in mine. A few good kids coming through though so we'll see.

[The Edge]

Leeds popularity would go back to the Giles days but I don't think Leeds would be a traditional home of Irish ex Pat's in Britain unlike Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester.

Arsenal had a number of Irish players back in the 70s/80s like Brady, Stapleton, O'Leary, Jennings, Rice....back at the time when Highbury/Holloway road was the epicentre of Irish ex pats in London.

Im not sure Celtic are as popular as they once were. Huge Donegal/Glasgow connection aside (Houghton, McGeady, McCarthy, Bonner even Given) . Sign of the times with the decline of the Scottish league and it's profile maybe.

If only Grealish had stayed in green, a resurgent Villa support across the Irish Sea would have been inevitable! Ticked a lot of boxes too, GAA background, bit of a rebel off the pitch and obviously once in a generation player. Rice/Grealish midfield would have eased a lot of future qualification worries.

Think quite a few went to Leeds and still do e.g. there's still an Irish Centre there. Apparently it's mainly from Mayo and the west. All the Leeds fans I know though are in the 55-65 range so more to do with Giles and the Revie era.

Back in the day I had a soft spot for Arsenal for the same reason but went off them from the mid-90s on when Wenger developed selective blindness.

With the Premier League Celtic may have declined as people's first choice but only they and Liverpool have stores in Dublin City centre. The Celtic one's been there for ages (the Man U closed after 2 years) so there must be a decent amount of support.

Agree re Grealish and was gutted when he and Rice switched and they may well yet rue it. Missed out on Harry Kane and Rooney too. As Kilbane put it at the time it depends on the family e.g. in his case it was always going to be Ireland and would be the same in mine. A few good kids coming through though so we'll see.

So your name is Brazilian Villain and you're Irish? Well feck me who'd of thought that? lol.I'm Irish descent myself though we lost touch years ago. Was over in Co Wicklow just before the lockdown and was amazed to go in a little out of the way pub to try and watch sky sports for the results and found several Villa fans in there. We were outnumbered by Liverpool & Celtic obviously.For the record I don't like U2 as my name suggests
it's totally unrelated.

[RamboandBruno]

Leeds popularity would go back to the Giles days but I don't think Leeds would be a traditional home of Irish ex Pat's in Britain unlike Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester.

Arsenal had a number of Irish players back in the 70s/80s like Brady, Stapleton, O'Leary, Jennings, Rice....back at the time when Highbury/Holloway road was the epicentre of Irish ex pats in London.

Im not sure Celtic are as popular as they once were. Huge Donegal/Glasgow connection aside (Houghton, McGeady, McCarthy, Bonner even Given) . Sign of the times with the decline of the Scottish league and it's profile maybe.

If only Grealish had stayed in green, a resurgent Villa support across the Irish Sea would have been inevitable! Ticked a lot of boxes too, GAA background, bit of a rebel off the pitch and obviously once in a generation player. Rice/Grealish midfield would have eased a lot of future qualification worries.

Think quite a few went to Leeds and still do e.g. there's still an Irish Centre there. Apparently it's mainly from Mayo and the west. All the Leeds fans I know though are in the 55-65 range so more to do with Giles and the Revie era.

Back in the day I had a soft spot for Arsenal for the same reason but went off them from the mid-90s on when Wenger developed selective blindness.

With the Premier League Celtic may have declined as people's first choice but only they and Liverpool have stores in Dublin City centre. The Celtic one's been there for ages (the Man U closed after 2 years) so there must be a decent amount of support.

Agree re Grealish and was gutted when he and Rice switched and they may well yet rue it. Missed out on Harry Kane and Rooney too. As Kilbane put it at the time it depends on the family e.g. in his case it was always going to be Ireland and would be the same in mine. A few good kids coming through though so we'll see.

So your name is Brazilian Villain and you're Irish? Well feck me who'd of thought that? lol.I'm Irish descent myself though we lost touch years ago. Was over in Co Wicklow just before the lockdown and was amazed to go in a little out of the way pub to try and watch sky sports for the results and found several Villa fans in there. We were outnumbered by Liverpool & Celtic obviously.For the record I don't like U2 as my name suggests
it's totally unrelated.

My family are Dublin and my wife’s Mayo. This will be the first year in over 20 years we haven’t been over, because of the virus.
Tend to think the 90s was the big period for Villa over there because of the success of the Irish National Team and the Villa happening relatively simultaneously and the Townsend, Houghton, Staunton and God links.
I’m the same with Grealish. Understand why he did it and obviously he’ll still have ambitions for the Euros and next World Cup. But he could of been huge for Ireland. Him and Hourihane seem to get on as well, so shame there was no influence there.

[The Edge]

Leeds popularity would go back to the Giles days but I don't think Leeds would be a traditional home of Irish ex Pat's in Britain unlike Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester.

Arsenal had a number of Irish players back in the 70s/80s like Brady, Stapleton, O'Leary, Jennings, Rice....back at the time when Highbury/Holloway road was the epicentre of Irish ex pats in London.

Im not sure Celtic are as popular as they once were. Huge Donegal/Glasgow connection aside (Houghton, McGeady, McCarthy, Bonner even Given) . Sign of the times with the decline of the Scottish league and it's profile maybe.

If only Grealish had stayed in green, a resurgent Villa support across the Irish Sea would have been inevitable! Ticked a lot of boxes too, GAA background, bit of a rebel off the pitch and obviously once in a generation player. Rice/Grealish midfield would have eased a lot of future qualification worries.

Think quite a few went to Leeds and still do e.g. there's still an Irish Centre there. Apparently it's mainly from Mayo and the west. All the Leeds fans I know though are in the 55-65 range so more to do with Giles and the Revie era.

Back in the day I had a soft spot for Arsenal for the same reason but went off them from the mid-90s on when Wenger developed selective blindness.

With the Premier League Celtic may have declined as people's first choice but only they and Liverpool have stores in Dublin City centre. The Celtic one's been there for ages (the Man U closed after 2 years) so there must be a decent amount of support.

Agree re Grealish and was gutted when he and Rice switched and they may well yet rue it. Missed out on Harry Kane and Rooney too. As Kilbane put it at the time it depends on the family e.g. in his case it was always going to be Ireland and would be the same in mine. A few good kids coming through though so we'll see.

So your name is Brazilian Villain and you're Irish? Well feck me who'd of thought that? lol.I'm Irish descent myself though we lost touch years ago. Was over in Co Wicklow just before the lockdown and was amazed to go in a little out of the way pub to try and watch sky sports for the results and found several Villa fans in there. We were outnumbered by Liverpool & Celtic obviously.For the record I don't like U2 as my name suggests
it's totally unrelated.

My family are Dublin and my wife’s Mayo. This will be the first year in over 20 years we haven’t been over, because of the virus.
Tend to think the 90s was the big period for Villa over there because of the success of the Irish National Team and the Villa happening relatively simultaneously and the Townsend, Houghton, Staunton and God links.
I’m the same with Grealish. Understand why he did it and obviously he’ll still have ambitions for the Euros and next World Cup. But he could of been huge for Ireland. Him and Hourihane seem to get on as well, so shame there was no influence there.

Yeah I've noticed that with Grealish & Hourihane. Jack made a bee line for him to celebrate his goal at West Ham. If Jack doesn't make the next England squad he may live to regret his choice. But whatever happens good luck to him anyway I've thoroughly enjoyed his Villa career so far. He's given us some great memories.

[dave shelley]

Regarding that Villa side of the nineties and its Irish contingent, they still never got the recognition from the press and mainstream media over here that they deserved.  The pages and sports bulletins were always, as now creaming themselves over Manure and Liverpool despite Villa having Ireland's favourite sporting son, the Lord McGrath in their line-up.  If I hadn't been a Villa man I would still have found it strange behaviour seeing as how the Villa provided almost half the Irish national team.

[amfy]

With Jack Grealish going straight to Hourihane after the type of goal it was, I wondered whether they had worked together on shooting from range.
They are often of free kicks together & some conversations seem to go on there - where to put it & how? It is Hourihane’s best asset.

[thick_mike]

With Jack Grealish going straight to Hourihane after the type of goal it was, I wondered whether they had worked together on shooting from range.
They are often of free kicks together & some conversations seem to go on there - where to put it & how? It is Hourihane’s best asset.

Probably wanted to say that Hourihane isn’t the only player with a left foot at the club

[brontebilly]

Regarding that Villa side of the nineties and its Irish contingent, they still never got the recognition from the press and mainstream media over here that they deserved.  The pages and sports bulletins were always, as now creaming themselves over Manure and Liverpool despite Villa having Ireland's favourite sporting son, the Lord McGrath in their line-up.  If I hadn't been a Villa man I would still have found it strange behaviour seeing as how the Villa provided almost half the Irish national team.

That time was my link into Villa, four Villa players all were outstanding beating Italy in the giants stadium in New Jersey in 94...great times

I think a resurgent Man United with the two Corkonians on board were always going to be increasingly popular. As others have said Doug Ellis corner shop ways never saw the club expand it's support base globally at a time when wall to wall sky sports coverage was kicking off for the premier league. Huge opportunity lost for the biggest club in Britain's second city.

That's why Grealish isn't just another player for us too. He is an instantly recognisable, very talented obviously and charismatic. A commercial goldmine for the club that's not easily replaceable on or off the pitch.

[dave.woodhall]

Regarding that Villa side of the nineties and its Irish contingent, they still never got the recognition from the press and mainstream media over here that they deserved.  The pages and sports bulletins were always, as now creaming themselves over Manure and Liverpool despite Villa having Ireland's favourite sporting son, the Lord McGrath in their line-up.  If I hadn't been a Villa man I would still have found it strange behaviour seeing as how the Villa provided almost half the Irish national team.

It might have helped if you could have bought a Villa shirt in Dublin.

[Bobby Boy]

I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.

This must be on the entirely reasonable basis that had the goal been given the referee would have immediately blown the full time whistle to give Sheff Utd a 1-0 win.

Then every game following this would have proceeded exactly as they did with no  change of approach and the results would have been exactly the same.

This whole Sheff Utd 'ghost' goal analysis keeps Villa up shtick is just utterly bizarre.

[Brend'Watkins]

I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.

 

I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?

[rooboy316]

Danny Murphy saying Stiliyan Petrov was one of the toughest opponents he ever faced.

Petrov is *exactly* the sort of player we really, really needed this season.

I reckon Luiz is that player. Few similarities in their trajectory at Villa. Petrov scored a couple of nice goals early, but also copped a bit of flak in the early days as he took a while to get up to speed. Moving him deeper in midfield gave him more time on the ball and he started orchestrating things nicely.

[Ian.]

I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.

 

I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?

Well we had better re-write history. Our goal against West Germany in the final was clearly on the line and maybe we need to chalk off Maradonna’s hand ball in ‘86.

[Duncan Shaw]

I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.

 

I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?

There was something in the Torygraph about it when I tried to read the article on Suso, but all behind paywall.
Surely any arbitration body will throw it out with all the reasons posted above?

[ChicagoLion]

I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.

 

I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?

There was something in the Torygraph about it when I tried to read the article on Suso, but all behind paywall.
Surely any arbitration body will throw it out with all the reasons posted above?

It’s the same spiV lawyer trying to drum up some business.
It won’t happen and everybody with any sense knows it won’t happen.