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Online Gareth

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2835 on: August 20, 2020, 08:14:48 AM »
Not thrilled about the idea of Thauvin or Harry Wilson.

Think Wilson is mainly good at set pieces, but not very good otherwise. Admittedly this is mainly from what I remember when he was at Derby and I always thought Mount was the much better player. Maybe he's improved since then.

Thauvin looks a bit lightweight, which is what I think is Trezeguet's main weakness. If Trez could bulk up a bit, he could be a real player.

This shows my fear for the window, I literally don’t think there is a single player that we could sign that will be met with universal acclaim;

You sign Benrahma or Watkins & some will criticise that they have only played at Champ level

You sign Eduoard (sp!) and some will say he’s only done it in a pub league

You sign Rashica and some will say he doesn’t want to be here

You sign anyone from Norwich, Bournemouth or Watford they will be showing no ambition buying off relegated clubs

You buy anyone from the Belgian league......LOL!

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2836 on: August 20, 2020, 08:18:25 AM »
Not thrilled about the idea of Thauvin or Harry Wilson.

Think Wilson is mainly good at set pieces, but not very good otherwise. Admittedly this is mainly from what I remember when he was at Derby and I always thought Mount was the much better player. Maybe he's improved since then.

Thauvin looks a bit lightweight, which is what I think is Trezeguet's main weakness. If Trez could bulk up a bit, he could be a real player.

This shows my fear for the window, I literally don’t think there is a single player that we could sign that will be met with universal acclaim;

You sign Benrahma or Watkins & some will criticise that they have only played at Champ level

You sign Eduoard (sp!) and some will say he’s only done it in a pub league

You sign Rashica and some will say he doesn’t want to be here

You sign anyone from Norwich, Bournemouth or Watford they will be showing no ambition buying off relegated clubs

You buy anyone from the Belgian league......LOL!

Spot on. As evidenced by those on here recently turning their noses up at Gareth Bale! Obviously it was a theoretical suggestion that wouldn’t happen for many reasons but the point still stands.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2837 on: August 20, 2020, 08:31:05 AM »
Wilson looked ok at Derby, but not sure how he got on at Bournemouth at a higher level. Would prefer Buendia who has been linked for a similar price.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2838 on: August 20, 2020, 08:37:53 AM »
Wilson would be a poor signing. Not one of Bournemouth's better players. Not quick, no physical presence, doesn't track back, average work ethic. Has a good shot on him. I'd be happy with him as a squad player but that is not what we need right now. It would be a sign that our plan B targets are not much cop for me. We need solid upgrades on the first 11 not more gambles.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2839 on: August 20, 2020, 08:42:16 AM »
I think the jury’s out on nakamba but I do find it strange that he’s been written off when he looked very good early on, better than Luiz, albeit inconsistent and with the kind of very visible mistakes you’re going to get in that position while you’re developing.

Don't think Nakamba has a high potential ceiling as a player from what I've seen.

I rate Luiz hugely. I think he'll be playing in CL within 3 years just like Gana did after leaving us. Nakamba will probably be in Turkey or somewhere.

For a supposed midfield anchor player he's far too easily bypassed and really dosen't position himself well infront of the back 4, Wolves away sticks in my mind as when they were breezing past him (and Luiz) on the counter attack.

Average. Need to make sure we don't have him, Hause and Hourihane starting 20 + league games this season as that would certainly mean we haven't signed well enough.

Yeah fair points. I’d add though, I do think luiz looked better defensively in those late games partly because he was sitting more and the defence was 100 x better organised. In those games when MN was exposed we were still paying kamikaze football.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2840 on: August 20, 2020, 09:04:30 AM »
Wilson would be a poor signing. Not one of Bournemouth's better players. Not quick, no physical presence, doesn't track back, average work ethic. Has a good shot on him. I'd be happy with him as a squad player but that is not what we need right now. It would be a sign that our plan B targets are not much cop for me. We need solid upgrades on the first 11 not more gambles.

I don’t rate him at all, he looks bang average but can hit a free kick.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2841 on: August 20, 2020, 09:12:40 AM »
Wilson's been decent for Wales and would probably be a marginal upgrade on Trezeguet and El Ghazi, but I'd have thought there'd be better options than Harry Wilson for £20m. From what I've seen of Buendia I'd probably prefer a punt on him.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2842 on: August 20, 2020, 09:13:17 AM »
No to Wilson - not developed as much as he should have

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2843 on: August 20, 2020, 09:32:55 AM »
Spot on. As evidenced by those on here recently turning their noses up at Gareth Bale! Obviously it was a theoretical suggestion that wouldn’t happen for many reasons but the point still stands.

Not that it is going to happen anyway, but signing Gareth Bale would be a massive mistake.

He can't be fucked to go to work and play for Real Madrid, what do people think his mindset would be if he came here?

We'd be begging him to get off the Belfry.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2844 on: August 20, 2020, 09:34:13 AM »
FWIW I thought our major failing last summer, when combined with the unavoidable fact we'd had to buy an entire team, was that we didn't buy anyone with a decent amount of premier league experience (bar Heaton).

That's something we need to avoid repeating this summer.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2845 on: August 20, 2020, 09:35:14 AM »
Weston McKennie, American midfielder playing for Schalke being linked.

Seems a big lad, who is box to box. Southampton have been linked with him previously.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2846 on: August 20, 2020, 09:39:52 AM »

FWIW I thought our major failing last summer, when combined with the unavoidable fact we'd had to buy an entire team, was that we didn't buy anyone with a decent amount of premier league experience (bar Heaton).

That's something we need to avoid repeating this summer.

I don't think it needs to be specifically Premier League experience though, and I'm thinking really of Moutinho at Wolves, a quality player that has played in top leagues and still has a bit to give.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2847 on: August 20, 2020, 09:41:55 AM »
Weston McKennie, American midfielder playing for Schalke being linked.

Seems a big lad, who is box to box. Southampton have been linked with him previously.

Another of my Champ Manager faves, yes please.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2848 on: August 20, 2020, 09:43:21 AM »
Weston McKennie, American midfielder playing for Schalke being linked.

Seems a big lad, who is box to box. Southampton have been linked with him previously.

Another of my Champ Manager faves, yes please.

Seems a better pedigree of links this year. Stronger leagues, such as Bundesliga and in this kids case, Champions League exprience.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2849 on: August 20, 2020, 10:36:53 AM »
FWIW I thought our major failing last summer, when combined with the unavoidable fact we'd had to buy an entire team, was that we didn't buy anyone with a decent amount of premier league experience (bar Heaton).

That's something we need to avoid repeating this summer.

That will stir Dave into posting (wink).

We could certainly do with a calm head or two at the back and at base of midfield. The amount of leads we lost in last 10 minutes of games last season was scandalous. People seem to think we had that fixed in the run in but we still couldn't beat either Everton or West Ham when leading those games 1-0 with five minutes left despite neither of those being arsed about the result.

Something we're really going to have to correct next season if we're to really kick on.

 


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