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Offline peter w

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5940 on: July 14, 2017, 09:24:13 PM »
Its the balance of the squad that's all wrong. we rely too heavily on Adomah getting the ball to kodjia to the point that we have no attacking focus elsewhere. The midfield is too static and you can't have Green and Adomah together. I also think we have too many players who just aren't that good. Lansbury, Jedinak, Baker, Hutton. Mid-table Championship players to a man. That's why we are where we are.

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5941 on: July 14, 2017, 09:28:04 PM »
The squad is easily the strongest in the league. It needs a few additions no doubt, especially outwide, but in the context of second division outfits, you'd struggle to point to any better collection. They really ought to be going up automatically.


for the amount of money we have paid and the wage bill we have I think it's a piss poor squad full to the brim of Brucy's workmanlike championships warriors with very little real quality among them

if you think that squad with that manager is going to walk away with this league after what you've seen last season then you are going to be very disappointed imo

 

You do know that Bruce didn't sign all of this 'full to the brim' workman like squad?

yep, the managers who did buy them were just as bad in fairness

Offline tony scott

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5942 on: July 14, 2017, 10:08:12 PM »
I think that we all have to worry ,about the size ,and the declining value of our current squad.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2017, 10:17:23 PM by tony scott »

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5943 on: July 14, 2017, 10:37:55 PM »
Where did in say we'd walk away with the league? Why is it puss poor?

You think Leadbitter and Rimiriez at al have anything on Lansbury etc?

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5944 on: July 14, 2017, 11:43:42 PM »
I think we are perfectly capable of mounting a promotion challenge.  However my biggest fear is three weeks before we start the season we still have at least ten players who no longer have futures at the club and are stinking the place out.

Remember when we were going on last season about how badly coached the team appeared to be.  I heard an interesting statement from Nigel Spink on this.  He said it must be an absolute nightmare for calderwood and clemence to have to coach such a large number of players as we have.  I think this has a lot of merit. 

Get rid of these by the end of August and I'll genuinely believe we can do it.

Offline alftitimus

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5945 on: July 15, 2017, 01:25:00 AM »
Xia has backed himself into a corner.

We can't get rid of deadwood if there are no buyers.
And there are not any attempting to meet Xia's value because they know with us, it's a buyer's market.

£25 million he boasted in the January window - No sale.
£8million six months later, and a little twist to turn it into a loan  :(

As Xia said, we pay part of the wages for all loaned-out players.
He also said that the parachute payments were 'ring-fenced' for Lerner and he had not spent a penny of them.Also he announces a close call with FairPlay.
Hence,  his business acumen  has screwed himself on getting Top Dollar.

We can't afford to buy-out player's contracts, that would come heavier than Terry's wages, so we just have to get riduculed and sell cheap to get Steve some pocket money.

We all have our choice of 'surplus' players, but how do you get rid of them if the vultures are prepared to wait it out ?

Xia's Boasting and Failed-Gambling has really put us in dead water.

I'm not really hopeful that he'll learn, or take advice.


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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5946 on: July 15, 2017, 03:24:48 AM »
The biggest investment needed, was to finance the cost of writing off the contracts of the deadwood, instead the New regime has added to the problem.
Here we are on the verge of a new season and still we have a large expensive and dysfunctional squad.

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5947 on: July 15, 2017, 03:58:24 AM »
I can only think of Richards, and probably Gabby and Cissokho who you would class as deadwood that were here when Tony took over and are still here. 2 of them were moderately useful last season and they are both out of contract at the end of this season anyway.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5948 on: July 15, 2017, 01:14:07 PM »
The squad is easily the strongest in the league. It needs a few additions no doubt, especially outwide, but in the context of second division outfits, you'd struggle to point to any better collection. They really ought to be going up automatically.


for the amount of money we have paid and the wage bill we have I think it's a piss poor squad full to the brim of Brucy's workmanlike championships warriors with very little real quality among them

if you think that squad with that manager is going to walk away with this league after what you've seen last season then you are going to be very disappointed imo

 

You do know that Bruce didn't sign all of this 'full to the brim' workman like squad?

You can see the type of squad he wants though by the players he has sold or loaned out and those he has kept, probably more so than the ones he has brought in.

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5949 on: July 15, 2017, 01:22:40 PM »
I'm not sure what's workman like about Hourihane or Lansbury. Both are dynamic box to box types, who thankfully have a strong work ethic.

We need to run sides of the pitch this year and utilise the strengths of the squad in a much more intelligent and deliberate manner.

Offline clash city rocker

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5950 on: July 15, 2017, 01:25:47 PM »
I know from an impeccable source how committed the doc is to Aston villa. OK so he has made mistakes ( in hindsight ) but doesn't everyone and look at what money he has provided for the club.If Bruce can get us up this season i'm convinced we can can really kick on in the premiership.

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5951 on: July 15, 2017, 01:54:56 PM »
I know from an impeccable source how committed the doc is to Aston villa. OK so he has made mistakes ( in hindsight ) but doesn't everyone and look at what money he has provided for the club.If Bruce can get us up this season i'm convinced we can can really kick on in the premiership.

doesn't matter how committed the doc is if you keep employing dud managers you will get nowhere

See Lerner,
it did for him and it will do for Xia unless he gets it right in that department his choices so far of RDM and Bruce are no better than Mcliesh and Lambert,

it's the most important decision he will ever make at the club everything else becomes virtually irrelevant

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5952 on: July 15, 2017, 01:56:48 PM »
I'm sure he is committed.  This is irrelevant in financial terms unless we go up this season or at the latest next.  We won't be able even if we wanted to just spend money because of the FFP requirements.

Offline clash city rocker

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5953 on: July 15, 2017, 02:42:32 PM »
Totally agree about the management choices but when you face the hard facts what manager is out there now who would come to us who would guarantee us promotion

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Re: Fans Worried Over Villa Future
« Reply #5954 on: July 15, 2017, 02:44:37 PM »
Totally agree about the management choices but when you face the hard facts what manager is out there now who would come to us who would guarantee us promotion

there's no guarantees in football as we found out last year with the promotion specialist

 


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