Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[ROBBO]

But surely this must place Ellis in a quandry if Oleary remains and he keeps the money in his pocket he would know that it will lead to thousands more relinquishing their season tickets making the club less attractive to any potential buyer.

[Oscar Goldman]

If O’Dreary isn’t sacked on the Monday after the Sunderland game, he will be after Ellis reads the letter he’ll receive from me at the end of the season.

[Bad English]

Can we have a preview?  =P~

[Oscar Goldman]

Can we have a preview?  =P~

No.  I wouldn’t want to be open to accusations of ‘baiting’ or ‘trolling’.

[Bad English]

I wouldn't want you to pop up on every thread with it.  :-

[MysticRaven]

and yes I am worried!!!

[JD]

What are you worried about MysticRaven?  :-s

That Oscar Goldman is vying for World Domination like Dr Evil?  :-

That BE is checking your grammar and spelling?  #-o

That nothing will change at Villa next season?  ](*,)  

That some people think you are an 18 stone paedophile, or related to John Craven?  [-(

To be on the nightshift thread you need to be very specific.  :-

[ROBBO]

I am somewhat concerned that this thread may come to an abrupt end, as one of my previous threads did courtesy of Mr Woodhall. So if any of you mungbeams want to start calling each other names please take it to another forum, this thread is for genuinely concerned Villa supporters who
wish to discuss their concerns in a robust but civilised manner. The night shift welcomes the discerning poster.

[Drummond]

Well fuck that for a game of soldiers.

[JD]

No swearing on this thread Drummond  :-# , it's not for the naughty people you know.  =;

Do you play soldiers Drummond? Are you the US and pretend you were responsible for winning every war ever fought when you play?  :smt002

[peter w]

As long as we're in the Prem we will be an attractive proposition for anyone. Its the'anyones' intentions that are the problem though. If somebody comes in they won't put in a small amount of money -Ie £10m or so as they would surely know that they wouldn't see much of a return for that. For the Comers to come in it would cost them say £40m- I quote this figure as not everyone would sell their shares- plus for them to get a return on the club they would neeed to pump in about £25-30m on players in the first season. So, for them to get anywhere they must know that £70m is needed. Do the Comers have that? Plus, upgrading of Bodymoor Heath. ANother £10m. So before we even get going they have to have £80m on the table. Minimum. The chancer Ray Ranson wouldn't have that, and would spiral us into debt to get us the players we need. Maybe with Langham at the helm we could have been steered better in this area, but the decision to remove smacks of the family cornershop managing to get rid of the troublesome area manager.

[JD]

Morning Peter.

Long term it is a worry isn't it. If someone does take over Villa then they need to have pots of cash to spare for upgrading players and facilities. I just get the impression that the Comers don't have a spare 30 - 40 million on top of the purchase price, to move us forward by improving the playing staff, training facilities etc.

I have said it before, if anyone is seriously thinking about taking over Villa, they are going to need 100million+ to buy and invest in the future of the club.

Time to start saving I think.

[peter w]

Morning JD.

I agree. That has got to be the type of expenditure we're talking about. I think the Comers are trying to put together apackage, and may be even trying to find someone else to come in with them. If it was off we would have heard something by now. As businessmen they wouldn't want to make it sound that they do not have enough money as it could affect their dealings in the property market. So, they would have come out as well saying, 'Chairman not genuinely interested in selling'. 'Too high a price' etc etc So I do think its in the pipeline. Still.

[ROBBO]

Isn't that our problem across the pitch, we have adequate players in most positions but no-one who is going to lead us to the promised land. Look at players that some rave about I will give my opinion.

Davis       will be very good but not yet
Milner      adequate and chases back but not brilliant
Moore      have my doubts whether he will make it
Cahill       needs to beef up but best so far
Abe          needs more time
Baros       Best mature player we have
Ridgewell  Give him two more years

Thats our future, some promise but nowhere near ready. Looking at the rest of the squad there is not one player with enough quality to get us into the top four. This is not an anti DOL post as our squad reflects the amount of money made availeable for players and there is only one responsible for that.

[peter w]

This ties in with here needing to be a lot of money put in to the club. taking your point on a bit further for next season for us to compete we need 2 centre-halves. Mellberg has had his day and needs replacing. Lescott is inexperienced and I don't think he's needed. We need 1 experienced centre-half at the very least. So lets put £5-7m on it. We need a wide left player - 5/6m and a central midfielder - £ 4-6m. Need a forward so lets say £5-7m. Thats just to compete this season. So £25m gone. Now we have to look at the goalkeeper, right-back, right side of midfield,and that second centre-half. Probably another £15m. So for this side to be even remotely competitive we need a minimum of £40m spent on players IMO, and that's a conservative estimate.