Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[Chris Smith]

I'm asking if you consider it to be midtable form Chris. Without looking at a league table, if someone said they supported a club that had won 2 of the last 12 would you say, sounds like a mid table club?

From 14 games it is 3 wins, 4 losses and 7 draws. Seems fairly middling to to me.

The current top 3 have only lost 3 games between them this season so it's not just us that they are brushing aside.

[Compass]

I'm asking if you consider it to be midtable form Chris. Without looking at a league table, if someone said they supported a club that had won 2 of the last 12 would you say, sounds like a mid table club?

You make it sound like we lost the other 10 games though. You still get points for draws you know.

You make it sound like alot of draws guarantee Premier League safety. He drew too many games last season while winning very little and that's why he has relegations on his C.V.

And Chris, he has exactly the same stats last season with the same amount of games played. What makes you so confident he'll keep us up? Also, he has better tools to work with and yet isn't doing any better than at Blues. Why?

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm asking if you consider it to be midtable form Chris. Without looking at a league table, if someone said they supported a club that had won 2 of the last 12 would you say, sounds like a mid table club?

From 14 games it is 3 wins, 4 losses and 7 draws. Seems fairly middling to to me.

The current top 3 have only lost 3 games between them this season so it's not just us that they are brushing aside.

Your post has no relevance to mine. *wink*

Mainly because you gave a politicians answer and didn't answer the question.

[curiousorange]

It's taken me until now to realise that the transfer window's open in less than four weeks. Usually I'm checking out the gossip by now but I'm less than excited about what's going to happen, if anything. Even if McLeish was given fifty million to spend, I'd expect him to splurge it all on utter crap.

[Eigentor]

I'm asking if you consider it to be midtable form Chris. Without looking at a league table, if someone said they supported a club that had won 2 of the last 12 would you say, sounds like a mid table club?

From 14 games it is 3 wins, 4 losses and 7 draws. Seems fairly middling to to me.

The current top 3 have only lost 3 games between them this season so it's not just us that they are brushing aside.

Here's an attempt at a prediction:

• Against the teams in the top half we've won 2 points in 5 matches.
• Against the teams in the bottom half we've won 14 points in 9 matches.
• The 3 matches lost against teams in the top half are against the teams currently in the top three, but two of the matches won are against the bottom two, and all matches won are home matches
• So a match against a top 10 side we will on average win 0.4 points per game
• Against a bottom 10 side we will on average win 1.6 points per game
• In the matches against Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Stoke, we can expect 1.6 points
• In the match against Bolton we can expect 1.6 points
• Which means that we can expect 3.2 points ~ 3 points in the next six matches.
• After half a season, we'll have 19 points in 19 matches.
• That's not mid-table form

Note: This prediction does not take into account that we appear to be getting steadingly worse.

[Chris Smith]

I'm asking if you consider it to be midtable form Chris. Without looking at a league table, if someone said they supported a club that had won 2 of the last 12 would you say, sounds like a mid table club?

From 14 games it is 3 wins, 4 losses and 7 draws. Seems fairly middling to to me.

The current top 3 have only lost 3 games between them this season so it's not just us that they are brushing aside.

Your post has no relevance to mine. *wink*

Mainly because you gave a politicians answer and didn't answer the question.

Ok, if your going to ignore games because they don't support your stance can I the last 5 minutes at Sunderland and QPR chalked off? *wink*

I accept that we're a bit crap some of the time but we're also a bit average and a bit decent some of the time. That's what you get with mid table sides.

[PeterWithesShin]

Which of the last 12 games am I ignoring? Regardless of how you try and spin it, it will still only be 2 wins out of the last 12 league games.
But if it will make you happy, 3 wins out of 14. Does that really make it look any better? That puts us on target for about 8 wins over a 38 game season. If that doesn't cause you any concern, then fair play. But it causes concern to a lot of us.

Not sure why would you want to ignore the last 5 minutes at Sunderland, does it make a difference if it had finished 1-1 instead of 2-2? *wink*

[JD]

I'm not even worried anymore, I'm just bored by the spineless and clueless football we are playing. There's more excitement in watching the grass grow 
I didn't even get upset or angry after getting up at 6am to watch yesterday's game I just thought why did I even bother wasting my time, when I could have been sleeping.

[NeilH]

I'm not even worried anymore, I'm just bored by the spineless and clueless football we are playing. There's more excitement in watching the grass grow 
I didn't even get upset or angry after getting up at 6am to watch yesterday's game I just thought why did I even bother wasting my time, when I could have been sleeping.

My issue goes deeper than the obvious problems on the pitch. Off the field we are direction-less and floundering. The only things that seems to matter is cutting costs and blunder after blunder is just eroding any faith I have in the way the club is being run. In the next couple of weeks, someone within B6 needs to get a serious grip on the way things are going and do something about it, as they are testing the loyalty of even the most patience of us glass half-full fans.

[VillaSpen]

I didn't even get upset or angry after getting up at 6am to watch yesterday's game

Well, that makes two of us! I don't think I could even raise the levels of apathy required to get angry.

[DB]

At least we won't win the League Cup, which after winning SHA's season nose-dived. Straws are beong clutched.

OK, we don't have as good squad as last season but we should be doing better than this - AMcL is really doing is best to stifle them.

[paul_e]

I'm asking if you consider it to be midtable form Chris. Without looking at a league table, if someone said they supported a club that had won 2 of the last 12 would you say, sounds like a mid table club?

From 14 games it is 3 wins, 4 losses and 7 draws. Seems fairly middling to to me.

The current top 3 have only lost 3 games between them this season so it's not just us that they are brushing aside.

Your post has no relevance to mine. *wink*

Mainly because you gave a politicians answer and didn't answer the question.

Ok, if your going to ignore games because they don't support your stance can I the last 5 minutes at Sunderland and QPR chalked off? *wink*

I accept that we're a bit crap some of the time but we're also a bit average and a bit decent some of the time. That's what you get with mid table sides.

I just can't accept that last sentence.  We haven't been decent since we played blackburn 3 months ago.

As a few have pointed out the 'style' is exactly what he did with blues which is try to get to the last 10minutes with e game still in the balance and then hope for a late winner.  The entire setup is designed to play it safe for the majority of the game.  I understand this but can't see how he thinks he can implement it at Villa.  We have 2 centre backs who always look like they have a mistake in them.  We have fullbacks who regularly get skinned.  Our defensive midfield 'options' are a youngster with a handful of games under his belt and not a lot else.

This disparity between style and playing staff isn't something new, it was always going to be the case when we appointed the clown, that's why it was always such a bad idea.  We have a squad setup to keep the ball and play through the midfield and a manager who is happy to have 40% possession.  The thing is replacing the manager should be a lot cheaper than buying a new squad to fit his plans but you can't put a price on pride and that's what sacking him will cost the board.

[andrew08]

I'm not worried about our premier league future at all. We aren't going to get into Europe, we aren't going down. We are going to be mid table somewhere between 7th and 12th. And on the bright side one of the sides who we can't beat at home or away is going to get knocked out of the FA Cup.

I think it is harsh to criticise the club off the pitch, lots of things are better now than five years ago. Even the club shop has better stock and even  has a high street location in town. We have excellent match day facilities to suit all pockets and the PA kind of works better than it ever did.

I accept the footy is shite to watch, but I'm up for giving AM a chance; lets see how he beds the young talent in, how he deals with the departures of Dunne, Collins and all the other old rubbish. Give him at least a transfer window to sort things out and do some wheeling and dealing.

[NeilH]

I think it is harsh to criticise the club off the pitch, lots of things are better now than five years ago. Even the club shop has better stock and even  has a high street location in town. We have excellent match day facilities to suit all pockets and the PA kind of works better than it ever did.

All these things are nice, but it is being wiped away by clueless managerial appointments and a sense that the club has no direction right now.
Randy is not going to be judged on the variety of ties in the club shop, but he is being judged on our seeming inability to get anything right at this moment, both on and off the pitch.

[big ronsjeweller]

1st time post.... here goes

Been a Villa fan since my first game v Blackpool in 1973 aged 7. Been some huge magnificent high points since then as well as some plunging the depths low spots....... This feels bad!!
There is no life at Villa Park at the moment, no joy and very little hope. We're playing monochrome football under a monochrome ginger top manager.
We've a chairman who perhaps reasonably, is looking in his wallet wondering where all the millions he's pumped in has gone. We've a squad many of whom are not sufficient quality and some youngsters on whom the jury is out
The cup draw has got disaster written all over it and the whole club feels like its under a black cloud.
I dont think that the present management team can create any excitement or any hope. Crowds are going to tumble like the end of a Heskey run and we will be down among the dead men at the end of the season.
We need a change of direction and an increase of positivity. The feeling around the club when BFR arrived, Sir Brian and the start of MON's flawed stewardship. This comes from the top......
Has Randy got the inclination and the bottle to act now???

I bloody hope so