Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[ROBBO]

JD i was in Christchurch six days before the disaster and thought the town was the best in NZ my sympathies. Well we are here again, only Aston Villa can have an owner give so much money over five years and finish up in utter turmoil. Everyone is to blame, Lerner for giving MON too much power and not realising he was overpaying very average players, Faulkener for being the worst chief exec we have ever had with no knowledge of football, MON for being a prick, Houllier for taking the job thinking he could turn Barnsley into Real Madrid just by asking them to pass more, Ash Young for believing he is a midfielder, Richard Dunne for being fat and a piss pot, Downing for being a coward, and all the Villa players combined for being the most gutless pack of useless gits in the whole football world. Did i miss anyone?

[Louzie0]

I had two grandfathers like we all do.   The paternal one was a small. kind, gentle little man with a gold watch and chain and a love of painting in oils.   The maternal one was a mad piss head lunatic Villa fan.   I wonder if it is too late to take up painting.

It's never too late to take up painting.

[peter w]

I had two grandfathers like we all do.   The paternal one was a small. kind, gentle little man with a gold watch and chain and a love of painting in oils.   The maternal one was a mad piss head lunatic Villa fan.   I wonder if it is too late to take up painting.

It's never too late to take up painting.

Oh I don't know. Stephen Hawking won't be having a gallery exhibition any time soon.

[Louzie0]

I had two grandfathers like we all do.   The paternal one was a small. kind, gentle little man with a gold watch and chain and a love of painting in oils.   The maternal one was a mad piss head lunatic Villa fan.   I wonder if it is too late to take up painting.

It's never too late to take up painting.

Oh I don't know. Stephen Hawking won't be having a gallery exhibition any time soon.

lol (but I feel so guilty)

[Billy Walker]

I think this feels so bloody awful because we thought these days were over after getting rid of Doug.  It's all those high hopes of the takeover vapourizing before our eyes.  When O'leary was the manager we were used to the patented Ellisian roller-coaster ride of being a club run on a shoestring and underperforming year in year out.  This is different because this was not supposed to happen.  This isn't going according to script.

New manager or no new manager we can get out of it and see this wretched season through.  As others have posted, we have to hold our nerve and be totally behind the players and club.  We have got to be positive and lift the club.  We will get out of this and climb the table if we stick together.  The players need to know we are all in this together and we will get through it together.

[JD]

Maybe they need a General type kicking up the backside before the next game, rather than a gallic shrug. No matter how much I think Houllier has f&*ed up with his picking of the team, the players he has picked should still be good enough to beat teams like Wolves. They have a lot to answer for, but they should still show some professional pride. What do they think will happen if we get relegated? Who will want these overpaid prima donnas who can't even string two-three passes together?   

[OzVilla]

Maybe they need a General type kicking up the backside before the next game, rather than a gallic shrug. No matter how much I think Houllier has f&*ed up with his picking of the team, the players he has picked should still be good enough to beat teams like Wolves. They have a lot to answer for, but they should still show some professional pride. What do they think will happen if we get relegated? Who will want these overpaid prima donnas who can't even string two-three passes together?   

Plenty, they are good players most of them who will be in demand - primarily as we'll need to offload at discounted prices and the vultures will circle just like we did to Boro (Downing) and Sunderland (Sorenson) and Newcastle (Beye).  They'll have no problems finding clubs - wankers.

[brian green]

Billy Walker I respect and admire your many posts on the subject of getting behind the team and lifting them.

Unfortunately I think such a solution is over simplistic and in the long run bad for us all.

Firstly the team has to want to be lifted.   There were times against Wolves when the crowd tried to lift them and to lift ourselves but there was no response.   Even when record numbers of us were cheering them on in the old third division they were players who wanted to be lifted.   Bad modern players have such negotiating power which was given them by all the manifestations of Bosman and the spawning of owner/agents they know they can walk into another team and be hailed as heroes.   You just see what happens to Dunne.   Full page coverage in the Mirror headlined MY VILLA HELL and a picture of him holding a Young Boys scarf over his head.   Ditto Ashley Young with a Tottenham scarf and Collins with a Bolton scarf.   Who was the only player who saluted the Holte at the end of the Wolves game?  Gabriel Agbonlahor a brummie boy a product of our youth team and a Villa fan.   The others were already thinking about which bars they were going to hit.

Secondly and much more importantly we at Villa have had 100 years of top flight football.   That has not come about by chance.   When I started following Villa all around us at the bottom of the first division were clubs like Grimsby, Huddersfield, Wednesday, Charlton and Notts County.   Over the years these teams and many others like them have gone into irreversible decline and the one common and overriding factor has been the assumption that their fans would carry on turning up and "getting behind the lads" regardless of the mismanagement of the club.

We at Villa in my lifetime have survived the dross served up by he owners from Normansell through the Bendalls and Ellis and demanded better standards.   We have not allowed ourselves to be taken for granted.

What the present Villa executives want us to do is behave and buy our season tickets.   I will not behave.   I want them held to account for pissing up the wall the new start offered to us by the generosity of Randy Lerner.

I will not get behind that team or attempt to lift them until they give me some sign that they want me to do it.   And that goes for the manager too.

[Simon Ward]

And we have got another 11 days to worry before the Everton match!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JD]

Billy Walker I respect and admire your many posts on the subject of getting behind the team and lifting them.

Unfortunately I think such a solution is over simplistic and in the long run bad for us all.

Firstly the team has to want to be lifted.   There were times against Wolves when the crowd tried to lift them and to lift ourselves but there was no response.   Even when record numbers of us were cheering them on in the old third division they were players who wanted to be lifted.   Bad modern players have such negotiating power which was given them by all the manifestations of Bosman and the spawning of owner/agents they know they can walk into another team and be hailed as heroes.   You just see what happens to Dunne.   Full page coverage in the Mirror headlined MY VILLA HELL and a picture of him holding a Young Boys scarf over his head.   Ditto Ashley Young with a Tottenham scarf and Collins with a Bolton scarf.   Who was the only player who saluted the Holte at the end of the Wolves game?  Gabriel Agbonlahor a brummie boy a product of our youth team and a Villa fan.   The others were already thinking about which bars they were going to hit.

Secondly and much more importantly we at Villa have had 100 years of top flight football.   That has not come about by chance.   When I started following Villa all around us at the bottom of the first division were clubs like Grimsby, Huddersfield, Wednesday, Charlton and Notts County.   Over the years these teams and many others like them have gone into irreversible decline and the one common and overriding factor has been the assumption that their fans would carry on turning up and "getting behind the lads" regardless of the mismanagement of the club.

We at Villa in my lifetime have survived the dross served up by he owners from Normansell through the Bendalls and Ellis and demanded better standards.   We have not allowed ourselves to be taken for granted.

What the present Villa executives want us to do is behave and buy our season tickets.   I will not behave.   I want them held to account for pissing up the wall the new start offered to us by the generosity of Randy Lerner.

I will not get behind that team or attempt to lift them until they give me some sign that they want me to do it.   And that goes for the manager too.

Well said Brian, if they want our support then they have to show a bit of pride and respect to OUR CLUB.

[ROBBO]

I am really starting to worry over the mental state of some Villa posters if Ancelotti doesn't become Villa manager, some have already started to dream of a bright future again with Carlo leading the club to European glory. What will it do to their phsyci if we end up with Mr average.

[oldtimernow]

or worse Mr Brolly

[ROBBO]

Just heard a mass suicide watch is in place across the west midlands.

[Villanation]

Just heard a mass suicide watch is in place across the west midlands.

Samaritans have just taken on 3,000 additional staff, when the charity was asked are these new staff properly qualified for the job in dealing with massive deluded deranged manic depressed syndrome, the answer was, yes they're all Bermingham City fans......

[TheSandman]

I am really starting to worry over the mental state of some Villa posters if Ancelotti doesn't become Villa manager, some have already started to dream of a bright future again with Carlo leading the club to European glory. What will it do to their phsyci if we end up with Mr average.

Indeed. So many people have their heart set on him and seem unwilling to face the prospect that he might say no. I expect that whichever manager we end up with (if we don't get Ancelotti) will face a less than enthusiastic reaction even if it is a decent enough candidate like a Hughes or a Benitez. It seems that unless it is Ancelotti at least one section of our support will be pissed off and unhappy with the appointment. God help us if it is some substandard appointment like McClaren or Curbishley or Martinez.

And don't get me started on the hysterical, small time oafs who inhabit some corners of the internet who want us to appoint Ancelotti or they won't eat their tea like some toddler who isn't allowed to go to the sweetshop.