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« Reply #1095 on: October 28, 2005, 09:05:11 AM »
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Could tha be because its settling back down to its proper price as most people on buying to make a quick profit now. Whether Doug is in talks with people or not, the share price will fluctuate due to it beinga lenghty process.


It's not fluctuating, it's dropping like a stone.

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« Reply #1096 on: October 28, 2005, 09:06:29 AM »
Quick run there....

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« Reply #1097 on: October 28, 2005, 09:07:17 AM »
It went up following  Doug saying he was in talks. There's been a lull so now they're dropping. That's fluctuation in the market place. No?

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« Reply #1098 on: October 28, 2005, 09:11:55 AM »
Do any of you capitalist running dogs actually understand the stock market or are you just guessing?

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« Reply #1099 on: October 28, 2005, 09:12:53 AM »
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It went up following Doug saying he was in talks. There's been a lull so now they're dropping. That's fluctuation in the market place. No?


I have a theory that rather than reliquish control in one big take over Doug is maximising he profits by selling a few shares at a time.

Every now and again he gives the press just enough of a rumour for them to print a take over story then as the share price rises sells off a few then releases a statement denying the rumours.

He will stay in control till he's in his box, then we'll find out that at the time of his death he only actually owned 4% of the club.

Just a theory mind.

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« Reply #1100 on: October 28, 2005, 09:16:58 AM »
By the way, we've got the cricket team out here now. They were in the bar last night and will be again tonight. According to Michael Vaughan they'll be there most nights. Any tips that you think I should take on how to plod my way to this ton?

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« Reply #1101 on: October 28, 2005, 09:17:22 AM »
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It went up following  Doug saying he was in talks. There's been a lull so now they're dropping. That's fluctuation in the market place. No?


It's a steady decline because investors don't believe it's going to happen is my opinion.

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« Reply #1102 on: October 28, 2005, 09:21:27 AM »
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It went up following  Doug saying he was in talks. There's been a lull so now they're dropping. That's fluctuation in the market place. No?


It's a steady decline because investors don't believe it's going to happen is my opinion.


But surely the same way it goes opward markedly at the suggestion of a sale, then it will drop too when it doesn't happen immediately. A take over doesn't happen in one or two weeks it can take months. Surely, this is the share price finding its true value. The investors aren't going to but at £5 a share are they. If they are then they're not exactly dripping with business acumen. It would be wiser for the preice to drop and then they can get more for their money.

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« Reply #1103 on: October 28, 2005, 09:23:56 AM »
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It went up following  Doug saying he was in talks. There's been a lull so now they're dropping. That's fluctuation in the market place. No?


It's a steady decline because investors don't believe it's going to happen is my opinion.


I'm not arguing but doesn't the share price change sometimes simply to "drum up buisness"?

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« Reply #1104 on: October 28, 2005, 09:28:42 AM »
Right thats me done until Monday. Please make sure this is on 98 or 99 whence I return and I can hold my bat aloft triumphantly....

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« Reply #1105 on: October 28, 2005, 09:29:19 AM »
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I'm not arguing but doesn't the share price change sometimes simply to "drum up buisness"?


How?  The share price isn't decided upon by the club, it's down to market forces.  People are selling their shares, which isn't usually what you'd expect prior to a takeover.  (Obviously the main owner has to sell their shares during a takeover, before any smart arse points that out!)

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« Reply #1106 on: October 28, 2005, 09:33:16 AM »
The "market people".  I know that sounds vague because my understanding of it is vague.

But sometimes the jump in Villa's share price simply does not reflect the volumes of shares traded.

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« Reply #1107 on: October 28, 2005, 09:35:10 AM »
Yes, i think people are beginning to think that its not gonna happen - not for a good while yet.

Herbert is looking remarkably healthy at the moment compared with a few months ago.

He seems to have taken a real hands on approach (as per usual) with the construction of the training ground.

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« Reply #1108 on: October 28, 2005, 09:42:15 AM »
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Quote from: "Mac"


I'm not arguing but doesn't the share price change sometimes simply to "drum up buisness"?


How?  The share price isn't decided upon by the club, it's down to market forces.  People are selling their shares, which isn't usually what you'd expect prior to a takeover.  (Obviously the main owner has to sell their shares during a takeover, before any smart arse points that out!)


As was pointed out elsewhere it's only on small volumes and as Nick Lees noted:

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Given that Petchey has such a huge number of shares mostly bought at the £1-£2 level, if the takeover was looking dead in the water I'd be suprised if he didn't let a small percentage go to take some profit while the going was good, and he clearly hasn't.

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« Reply #1109 on: October 28, 2005, 09:42:55 AM »
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People are selling their shares, which isn't usually what you'd expect prior to a takeover.

Conversely, somebody is buying those shares, no?

 


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