Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[JD]

I'm knocking it LG I'm just pointing out that there are some who do belong to groups who speak on their behalf (such as the Trust). It wasn't meant to be offensive to you.

[RussellC]

I'm in a group called 'Aston Villa Supporters'.  What's great about our group is that we all have varied opinions on different matters, whilst many agree in the main and others don't.  It's great.

Fairly regularly we meet at Villa Park, and occasionally at other venues around the UK (we even used to meet abroad).  These meetings are very casual but everybody gets to voice their opinion.

[Tony]

So thanks to Gary Shaw, we now know John Cresswell is no part thereof. We are back to two people. Unless Gary Shaw makes three.

So Ian, what prompted the Stalinist rewrite?

I think John Cresswell has consistently said he's not part of VFC but his website takes a pro VFC stance, generally, but VFC get stick over there too.

[dave.woodhall]

Whatever.

Don't knock people for wearing their heart on a sleeve.

I don't knock people for wearing their heart on a sleeve, their sleeve or any sleeve.

I knock people when they get upset because I don't want to wear their heart on my sleeve.

[JD]

RussellC - Theres no denying that we all have at some time, or do belong to that group, although for some of us getting to Villa Park is extremely  time consuming and expensive.  

You're right though, it is great and I wouldn't want it any other way.   =D>

[dave.woodhall]

Who really takes any notice of VFC?

Priceless.

Why? A dozen or so on here. Let's say the same number onVillatalk. Half a dozen on the mailing list. Thirty or so in total, out of thirty-odd thousand who go down the match. It's an irrelevant number, and that's what VFC, in reality, are.

[peter w]

Don't know fear, don't know bosworth or any of the other VFC people. I've no problem with villa fans doing things out of love for my football team. However, I have a problem with them sending out the same statement time and time again,they start to get predictable and boring. Walking out in a pique of rage at an AGM or abusing Ellis for the sake of it does them no favours either. They do not look like the professinal outfit they seemed when they first appeared. They look at best amateurish. If some people support them, fine, I and many others do not. Again, like many others I want Doug out, but VFC come across as just attention seeking egotistical lightweights with no direction. Exactly the same criticism they throw at Ellis. I would perfer it if they put out a statement that they do not speak for all Villa fans, but if they did they would lose any press coverage. If they lost that they would lose their raison d'etre. Therefore, how can they be nothing more than attention seekers. They embarrass and irritate  me more than I cannot stand Ellis at the moment.

[Lee]

........ but VFC get stick over there too.

And is very moderated also, but then that's their choice.

[GaryShaw]

VFC are irrelevant. They/He are a very small voice in an enormous choir of fans. They have a right to exist as I have the right to laugh at them.        
      When Doug finally goes they can slap themselves/his self on the back as having no part in his leaving and get on with supporting the team or perhaps start a protest group advisory service. The one thing they should stop doing is claiming to be my voice.

[We're splat out of luck]

Whatever.

Don't knock people for wearing their heart on a sleeve.

I don't knock people for wearing their heart on a sleeve, their sleeve or any sleeve.

I knock people when they get upset because I don't want to wear their heart on my sleeve.

My Sleeve: http://www.myspace.com/thedominoparade[/u][/url]

[Mac]

Don't knock people for wearing their heart on a sleeve.

Or their egos?

[Laughing Gravity]

However, I have a problem with them sending out the same statement time and time again,they start to get predictable and boring.

Form your own group of people and send out your own statements. Or join a group that conforms to your opinions, but there isn't a lot of choice as far as that's concerned.

You obviously think there are lot of people out their who disagree with the VFC stuff. Well now is your chance to unite them and spread the message of the majority.

This is a wonderfully free country in some respects and you are allowed to do that.

[Laughing Gravity]

Or their egos?

I did say this was all about egos.

[peter w]

However, I have a problem with them sending out the same statement time and time again,they start to get predictable and boring.

Form your own group of people and send out your own statements. Or join a group that conforms to your opinions, but there isn't a lot of choice as far as that's concerned.

You obviously think there are lot of people out their who disagree with the VFC stuff. Well now is your chance to unite them and spread the message of the majority.

This is a wonderfully free country in some respects and you are allowed to do that.

Why should I? I don't agree with lots of things but I don't bang drums and march up and down streets, or issue statements, commenting on them. If VFC want to put themselves in the public gaze then they are open to criticism, or does suppression form part of their strategy. They bore me, do not speak for me, put themselves in the public eye as if they do, so I will react against them.

[Laughing Gravity]

Why should I?

It's a free country.

If VFC want to put themselves in the public gaze then they are open to criticism, or does suppression form part of their strategy.

No I don't think suppression is part of their strategy.