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Offline kippaxvilla2

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« Reply #255 on: October 19, 2005, 02:02:09 PM »
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So can you give us any examples of which players may have been picked ahead of others or at the expense of others, to back up these claims?


Fat Dave - at the expense of anyone.

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« Reply #256 on: October 19, 2005, 02:02:44 PM »
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Maybe your new identity will lull them into a false sense of security.


Top sarcasm BTW  =D>

Among the many Ansell questions is the very simple what is the current view of him? He was Satan himself. Then got a good press from Hodgson. Then was tipped to be Doug's Brutus at the AGM. I'd like to know what the various fan groups think of him. I'd like to know it from them rather than conjecture.

One question for you though Risso. I'm sure you've answered this before, but do you have anything to do with VFC? May help for next time people read your comments as if they were a VFC statement.

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« Reply #257 on: October 19, 2005, 02:02:55 PM »
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Are you not in the VFC loop, Risso?  Don’t they trust you with such information?


I've never claimed to be.


Everyone will surely agree it’s quite scandalous that they treat you in such a way after all the nonsense you’ve written on VFC’s behalf.

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« Reply #258 on: October 19, 2005, 02:03:37 PM »
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So can you give us any examples of which players may have been picked ahead of others or at the expense of others, to back up these claims?


You want me to search through my secret Doug phone tap recordings? It might take a while.


I don't mind how you do it! You claim Ellis interfered in team affairs i merely asked for proof, hard fact, names, call it what you will, untill then it is all just supposition

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« Reply #259 on: October 19, 2005, 02:10:50 PM »
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One question for you though Risso. I'm sure you've answered this before, but do you have anything to do with VFC? May help for next time people read your comments as if they were a VFC statement.


Well I'm friends with Pete and through him Jon, and meet up for a pre match beer on the odd occasion I get to Villa Park for a game.  I agree with their aims and most of what they say in press releases and interviews.  

But I think you probably knew all that.  I've never claimed to be "in the loop" or whatever people want to call it.  I just like a good debate, and happen to fall on the VFC side of the fence.

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« Reply #260 on: October 19, 2005, 02:12:38 PM »
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If he wasn't, he should have been sacked and replaced.


He was sacked and replaced. He then became a favourite of some. (See also Taylor, Graham - 'From Lying, Cowardly Tosser to Visionary in One Easy Move'.)


Ansell was a prick, nobody is saying otherwise.  However when he got fired he became a resentful prick and was willing to shed some light on the inner workings of the board.  Sure, what he said had to be taken with a pinch of salt but its still useful - even you must agree.  

I don't think VFC (from anything i've read on here or VT in the last 5 years) ever said he was a good bloke though, but maybe you could show me where - or perhaps you're using common conjecture to reinforce your point.

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« Reply #261 on: October 19, 2005, 02:12:46 PM »
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I could kill a pint of Ansells bitter right now.

Why, what's it ever done to you?  Groan.

Just had a pint of WUFFA.  From a birmingham brewery.  Very nice it was too.

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« Reply #262 on: October 19, 2005, 02:13:41 PM »
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I just like a good debate, and happen to fall on the VFC side of the fence.


Thank the Lord. I'd be bored shitless on here otherwise.

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« Reply #263 on: October 19, 2005, 02:13:49 PM »
Gav you are spot on there mate.

HGowever I wonder what people will have to say when the VFC disbands in a few months, the number of postings will go down !!

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« Reply #264 on: October 19, 2005, 02:15:10 PM »
What's your view on Ansell Ian?

Offline ianrobo

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« Reply #265 on: October 19, 2005, 02:18:43 PM »
From meeting him and various conversations he was a Villa fan and did have a passion for the club.

He also was someone who considring his position could not help actually giving me some help but we had very heated conversations through e-mail and phone and he would not be moved.

In the end the club was better for having Ansell trying to moderate Ellis but he wanted the top chair and that ambition in the end got him relieved/sacked of his position.

I think I would have enjoyed a few beers and discussions with him but I would not want him involved again, I do not wannt a Villa fan as the next owner.

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« Reply #266 on: October 19, 2005, 02:20:41 PM »
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I do not wannt a Villa fan as the next owner.


Hence the support for Ranson.

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« Reply #267 on: October 19, 2005, 02:22:55 PM »
what the fuck are you on about ??

You will not find one statement from me supporting the Ranson bid, however I would have liked to see his plans and see what he was going to do.

But at £48m the price was too low and Ellis was right to reject it on the price.

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« Reply #268 on: October 19, 2005, 02:24:45 PM »
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mark fletcher wrote:
Simon Page wrote:
So, is Ansell good or bad today?

Is Ansell a bitterman?
BOOM FUCKING BOOM!


It does seem increasingly difficult to find a pub which sells Ansells Bitter or Mild in the Birmingham area.
Its all bloody creamflow these days.


As a Debt Collector for Carlsberg UK, I can exclusively reveal the following 3 pubs as still being stockists of Ansells

Lad In Lane Erdington (recently polled highly on the worst pubs thread)
Prince Of Wales Moseley
Billesley, well Billesley.

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« Reply #269 on: October 19, 2005, 02:28:27 PM »
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I don't think VFC (from anything i've read on here or VT in the last 5 years) ever said he was a good bloke though, but maybe you could show me where - or perhaps you're using common conjecture to reinforce your point.


I'll go even further and say they haven't. Not sure I've read them being accused of it either.

I think they may have referred to him in a couple of press releases (but could be wrong). I know Hodgson spoke about him at some length in his reports (mostly painting him in a good light, some bad).

The most interesting thing was the rumour that he and Abdul were to ride into the AGM on white chargers, wiping away the dark lord Ellis. This, as always, led to a reconstitution of Ansell among some internet posters all over Nerddom. However, as neither Jon Fear nor Naz were among these, VFC cannot be said to be among the revisionists.

 


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