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Offline brian green

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« Reply #5355 on: April 20, 2009, 04:12:33 PM »
Villa in the gulf I read the middle section of your heartful post with considerable interest.

I have submitted a piece for Dave to consider for the next edition of the mag entitled Somewhere Over The Rainbow in which I try to put across, albeit allegorically, exactly the point you are making.   I hope Dave considers it good enough to publish because it is an equally heartfelt cry by me.

I hope you get the mag in the gulf.

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« Reply #5356 on: April 20, 2009, 04:24:37 PM »
After the west Ham goal, I looked around the pitch at all the players and they looked totally deflated ... gone was the spirit that brought us back into the Everton game a couple of weeks ago. We are lacking a player who has the utmost desire to win, someone who on Saturday would have lifted the team and made sure we didn`t have to suffer 15 -15 mins of panic.

I thought NRC may have been that player but MON must think otherwise.

We desparately need "winners" in the side `cause without them we will continue to hover in mid table.

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« Reply #5357 on: April 20, 2009, 07:34:19 PM »
You are absolutely spot on VCTM.   What we need is good old captaincy.   We need a gobby, bad tempered, defeat hating bully out there among all those introverts.   If you could put back the clock and put Curtis Davies alongside Allan Evans for a few games by God you would see a transformation in that young player.   And likewise The Master alongside Cuellar to show him that you do not need to run fast to defend, you just need to know where the ball is going next.

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« Reply #5358 on: April 20, 2009, 07:51:20 PM »
I have been having minor doubts not only with MON but the relationship between him and the Board. I think a gap has emerged in their relatinship and our football has been affected.

I was at the Moscow dinner and we could see how stubborn MON can be. He was apparently very open and discussed the reasons why we sent a weakened side to Moscow but it was not MONs most convincing speech.

I think MON believed he could do it the Brian Clough way and it has worked for him up to now but life is more difficult at the top of the premier league and sides do need that special talent to win games or to stop them losing.

MOn needs to find them and work with them but not just when Saturday comes.

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« Reply #5359 on: April 20, 2009, 08:02:26 PM »
You are both right, i think Davies is goingt to be top quality, but when his form is suffering, he tends to lose concentration, and positional play, and go chaseing the ball.......hence exposing Cuellar.

   Needs to take a step back and slow down and more importantly become more composed.

   Rding MON, when we 1st signed him, i was'nt sure, i thought we would become a bit long ball.

  Overall though i think his long term planning will bring benefits to the club.The aquisition of good young English talent will mean they are all worth at least what we purchased them for, with Ayoung and Gabby significantly more.I think he also purchases players to fit into a system, so that he buys a player with a specific role for him, hence Sidwell and a 5 man midfield system.Whereby i think he has made errors is that some players have'nt stepped up to the mark yet.

   Sidwell shoud be gtting about 10-15 goals a year, i think the lack of close season training, and injuries, have limited him, and made him look a poor player, which he is not.Get him back to his Reading standard and he is a bargain., aged 24.

   NRC.....has all the abilities to be one of the best midfielders in the Prem.....pace, aggression, needs to improve his passing and shooting, but i would back him in a tackle against anybody, aged 22.

   Davies......remind me so much of Ferdinand in his early days, but bigger quicker, better in the air, and more aggressive, needs to develop concentration, aged 22.


   When he signed Cuellar i was happy, but he was'nt worth the money.Nt a bad player, and a good defender, lacks a bit of pace, but lets wait and see.


   Not sure about Lyoung or Shorey i'm afaid, Shoreys better at gouing foward, but again lacks a bit of pace.A back 4 of LYoung, Shorey, Davies and Cuellar is too slow.

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« Reply #5360 on: April 20, 2009, 09:54:11 PM »
I think Reo-Coker is 24, and Sidwell may be a wee bit older than what you say but I agree with your points.

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« Reply #5361 on: April 20, 2009, 10:56:51 PM »
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I was at the Moscow dinner and we could see how stubborn MON can be. He was apparently very open and discussed the reasons why we sent a weakened side to Moscow but it was not MONs most convincing speech.

I think MON believed he could do it the Brian Clough way


Brian Clough would never've fielded an understrength team like that.  Not saying it wasn't the right thing to do in the circs, but Clough wouldn't have done it.

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« Reply #5362 on: April 20, 2009, 11:00:37 PM »
Quote from: "barrysleftfoot"
Not sure about Lyoung or Shorey i'm afaid, Shoreys better at gouing foward, but again lacks a bit of pace.A back 4 of LYoung, Shorey, Davies and Cuellar is too slow.

Just out of curiosity, where is the pace in Liverpool's back four? Or AC Milan's?

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« Reply #5363 on: April 20, 2009, 11:50:33 PM »
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I am chuffed to bits with being a Villa fan at the moment. Not as chuffed as I was a couple of months ago, but chuffed nonetheless.


Less of that cheerfulness. Don't you know the rules of being a Villa fan?

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« Reply #5364 on: April 21, 2009, 12:17:54 AM »
I'm not chuffed, we're in freefall. I am worried about next season and can only hope that MON proves me wrong this summer.

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« Reply #5365 on: April 21, 2009, 12:32:41 AM »
Quote from: "barrysleftfoot"
is suffering, he tends to lose concentration, and positional pYou are both right, i think Davies is goingt to be top quality, but when his form lay, and go chaseing the ball.......hence exposing Cuellar.

   Needs to take a step back and slow down and more importantly become more composed.

   Rding MON, when we 1st signed him, i was'nt sure, i thought we would become a bit long ball.

  Overall though i think his long term planning will bring benefits to the club.The aquisition of good young English talent will mean they are all worth at least what we purchased them for, with Ayoung and Gabby significantly more.I think he also purchases players to fit into a system, so that he buys a player with a specific role for him, hence Sidwell and a 5 man midfield system.Whereby i think he has made errors is that some players have'nt stepped up to the mark yet.

  Sidwell shoud be gtting about 10-15 goals a year, i think the lack of close season training, and injuries, have limited him, and made him look a poor player, which he is not.Get him back to his Reading standard and he is a bargain., aged 24.   NRC.....has all the abilities to be one of the best midfielders in the Prem.....pace, aggression, needs to improve his passing and shooting, but i would back him in a tackle against anybody, aged 22.

   Davies......remind me so much of Ferdinand in his early days, but bigger quicker, better in the air, and more aggressive, needs to develop concentration, aged 22.


   When he signed Cuellar i was happy, but he was'nt worth the money.Nt a bad player, and a good defender, lacks a bit of pace, but lets wait and see.


   Not sure about Lyoung or Shorey i'm afaid, Shoreys better at gouing foward, but again lacks a bit of pace.A back 4 of LYoung, Shorey, Davies and Cuellar is too slow.
should have gone to spec savers

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« Reply #5366 on: April 21, 2009, 01:56:48 AM »
I'm chuffed to fuck but it has nothing to do with Villa!

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« Reply #5367 on: April 21, 2009, 10:37:23 AM »
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I'm chuffed to fuck but it has nothing to do with Villa!


Because you're ugly and usually follow the solo path to heaven?

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« Reply #5368 on: April 21, 2009, 05:09:23 PM »
Dave, good point about Lplops defence not being quick, 1st good point in about 12 mths , not too bad........but if you look Arses , Man Ures defence then you have plenty of pace.

   Thing about Lplop, you have Carragher, and an almost Macca kind of sense of positioning, we have'nt got a player like that, and if he was out i'd think they would struggle.

  AC Milan, are not where they should be at the moment, so probably not the best example.


   I just like a bit more pace in the whole team.

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« Reply #5369 on: April 21, 2009, 11:32:08 PM »
Quote from: "peter w"
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
I'm chuffed to fuck but it has nothing to do with Villa!


Because you're ugly and usually follow the solo path to heaven?


No - THIS!

 


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