Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[Laughing Gravity]

do not believe Ellis is seriously looking to sell the club and it's basically all "spin

That is certainly a possibility looking at Ellis's "I'm fit" comments in todays papers.

[Risso]

Hasn't the share price fallen a fair bit over the last few days as well?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Hasn't the share price fallen a fair bit over the last few days as well?

It's stable Risso, with very low trading and still up £1.00 compared to a month ago. Current price: £4.75

[Risso]

Hasn't the share price fallen a fair bit over the last few days as well?

It's stable Risso, with very low trading and still up £1.00 compared to a month ago. Current price: £4.75

Didn't it drop about 35p in the week though?  Might not mean anything, but you'd expect the price to keep gradually rising somewhere towards the final sale price.

[deanl123]

Unless it has already rose above the final offer price!?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Hasn't the share price fallen a fair bit over the last few days as well?

It's stable Risso, with very low trading and still up £1.00 compared to a month ago. Current price: £4.75

Didn't it drop about 35p in the week though?  Might not mean anything, but you'd expect the price to keep gradually rising somewhere towards the final sale price.

So you disagree with Pete Bland/VFC and think Ellis is looking to sell? :-
I hope you're right!

[Risso]

I hope he sells.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Very diplomatic, Risso. Can't blame you though, having a drink by yourself before the game doesn't sound much fun although I'm sure you'd be made very welcome up at the Bartons. :smt002

[Oscar Goldman]

But perhaps if you (anyone) is unaware as to what's happening, as shareholders you (anyone) might want to try and find out, perhaps by asking questions.

I seem to remember that one of the few blokes who’s consistently asked questions of Doug over the last twenty years was abused by a prominent VFC supporter as a “geriatric madman” after last year’s AGM.

Still trying to continue your petty vendetta I see Stu.

As with the abuse of senior citizens, I’ll leave the petty personal vendettas to you, Risso.

[dave.woodhall]

How about 1 rejected approach (at least) to buy the club, one on going at an early stage, the chairman having severe health problems, the Chief Exec resigning over a "difference of opinion about future direction"

But perhaps if you (anyone) is unaware as to what's happening, as shareholders you (anyone) might want to try and find out, perhaps by asking questions.

Or perhaps none of the things happening have any bearing on the future of the club and therefore are not cause to ask questions or pass comment. Perhaps it's more important to talk about other things?

One approach that was generally regarded as tentative in the extreme, inadequate, and from someone who was so dedicated to the approach that he skulked off at the first opportunity. One that might or might not be serious, might or might not be at a realistic price, from someone whose identity has not been revealed, and which has rated a cursory mention in the press.

A chairman whose ill-health led to the club being run in his absence by senior management, and I'm sure that even you would agree it was run efficiently.

A chief executive resigning several months ago, and for reasons which neither he nor the club, when asked, will fully state, except to say that it was for more than purely business reasons.

I don't think there's much there to get worked up about, and until something concrete happens with regards to a possible takeover/retirement, I can't see any reason to labour the point.  

Asking questions is fine, provided you don't go into a sulk when you don't get the right answer you want. Saying the same things on an almost weekly basis regardless of what's happening in the world outside your computer is pointless.

Incidentally, as you've started to talk about VFC now, perhaps you could settle an argument. How many members have they got, and who are they?

[pete bland]

I now understand the reason Pete and VFC have taken this stand. It seems from posts on other sites, the VFC do not believe Ellis is seriously looking to sell the club and it's basically all "spin". That therefore justifies their continued press releases/pressure/attacks etc on Ellis.

Why didn't you say that in the first place, Pete?

Personally I'm sceptical about whether Ellis is about to divest himself of his interests in the club, sure. There's an element of spin in some of the recent stuff from Ellis and friends - but whether that's the traditional "be nice about someone who's leaving (or very ill)" or "see he's a great person to stay in charge, fit as a fiddle etc" who knows.

There's clearly, definitely, people who would like to take over. But it's not a done deal by a long way is it?

Jonathan asked some good questions at the agm - no one seems to disagree that they were relevant and courteously put.

I would guess that the vast majority of fans would like to see Ellis step down, new money come in, new ideas and dynamism, and Ellis have a long and happy retirement.
People will be concerned that whoever comes next is better, not worse, for the club and for the fans.

To me that's much more worthy of discussion than a recycled press article.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Incidentally, as you've started to talk about VFC now, perhaps you could settle an argument. How many members have they got, and who are they?

I'll be amazed if you ever get an answer to that.

[Laughing Gravity]

Why is an answer necessary? They are what they are.

What has the ST ever done for us?

[dave.woodhall]

Jonathan asked some good questions at the agm - no one seems to disagree that they were relevant and courteously put.

I would guess that the vast majority of fans would like to see Ellis step down, new money come in, new ideas and dynamism, and Ellis have a long and happy retirement.
People will be concerned that whoever comes next is better, not worse, for the club and for the fans.

To me that's much more worthy of discussion than a recycled press article.

"Relevant and courteous" - agreed. So why act like a spoiled child later? And why then start bitching about anyone who disagrees with him? He spoke about people hiding behind computers. That's a bit rich, considering 2/3 of the people he was with, and the way in which they all arrived late and left early, therefore avoiding the need to speak to anyone.

"Whoever comes next is better, not worse" - agreed again. So why give the impression of Anyone But Ellis? You may disagree, but that's the implication of VFC's continued actions.

"Much more worthy of discussion than a recycled press article" - agreed again. But it wasn't recycled - it was completely new, and obviously written after the weekend. Why pretend otherwise?

[Chris Smith]

Jonathan asked some good questions at the agm - no one seems to disagree that they were relevant and courteously put.

However none of those of us, who weren't able to attend, know what they were or what answers were given. All we know is that he subsequently walked out in a huff which sort of defeats the object.