Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[peter w]

I personally think that VFC DO speak for me and all other Villa fans. You lot are just upset because you didn't think of it first. If you had balls you slag off an 80- year old anti christ, wave red cards at him, and walk away flailing your hands just about as he was about to ask you the way to the toilets. Fletch you're a prick. Risso you're an arse, all Chris's you are faggots, Famous AV you embarrass yourself, BD you're an eejit. Woodhall stop making a living off the back off my football team and getting mugs like me to buy your books, Olofs beard?Olofs bollocks. Mac shmac. Laughing Gravity you're a tit,Legion who the fuck are you anyway? mazz and your poof of a brother can suck my big cock, Robbo and JD you fairies, Simon Page ooh you're soooo hard.Steve D what the 'D' stand for? Dickhead?Pete Bland ain't that the truth. Disco Stu or whatever the frig you call yourself you cocksucking animal sod off, Karlos get a proper job you boring twat, oh fuck the lot of ya VillaTalk is a lot more interesting anyway.....

surely that will get something going...

[Risso]

Especially for Simon, the Fantastic Four (with tongue mostly in cheek):

Mister Fantastic - Dave Woodhall, he bends this way, he bends that way!

The Invisible Woman - Disco Stu, disappears before your very eyes!  For days at a time!

The Human Torch - Ian Robinson, Flame on!  Flame!  Flame!  Flame!

The Thing - Mac McColgan, the ginger clobberer!

I'm tourched.

That's pretty good actually.

[Laughing Gravity]

I personally think that VFC DO speak for me and all other Villa fans. You lot are just upset because you didn't think of it first. If you had balls you slag off an 80- year old anti christ, wave red cards at him, and walk away flailing your hands just about as he was about to ask you the way to the toilets. Fletch you're a prick. Risso you're an arse, all Chris's you are faggots, Famous AV you embarrass yourself, BD you're an eejit. Woodhall stop making a living off the back off my football team and getting mugs like me to buy your books, Olofs beard?Olofs bollocks. Mac shmac. Laughing Gravity you're a tit,Legion who the fuck are you anyway? mazz and your poof of a brother can suck my big cock, Robbo and JD you fairies, Simon Page ooh you're soooo hard.Steve D what the 'D' stand for? Dickhead?Pete Bland ain't that the truth. Disco Stu or whatever the frig you call yourself you cocksucking animal sod off, Karlos get a proper job you boring twat, oh fuck the lot of ya VillaTalk is a lot more interesting anyway.....

This is the most sensible contribution to this thread yet.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

mazz and your poof of a brother can suck my big cock

Ah well Maz, you could do worse.

[Lee]

I personally think that VFC DO speak for me and all other Villa fans. You lot are just upset because you didn't think of it first. If you had balls you slag off an 80- year old anti christ, wave red cards at him, and walk away flailing your hands just about as he was about to ask you the way to the toilets. Fletch you're a prick. Risso you're an arse, all Chris's you are faggots, Famous AV you embarrass yourself, BD you're an eejit. Woodhall stop making a living off the back off my football team and getting mugs like me to buy your books, Olofs beard?Olofs bollocks. Mac shmac. Laughing Gravity you're a tit,Legion who the fuck are you anyway? mazz and your poof of a brother can suck my big cock, Robbo and JD you fairies, Simon Page ooh you're soooo hard.Steve D what the 'D' stand for? Dickhead?Pete Bland ain't that the truth. Disco Stu or whatever the frig you call yourself you cocksucking animal sod off, Karlos get a proper job you boring twat, oh fuck the lot of ya VillaTalk is a lot more interesting anyway.....

surely that will get something going...

I'm insulted -  I wasn't included!
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[pete bland]

His heart troubles should be a warning sign to Ellis that running the club, at nearly 82 years old - re-taking on the joint CEO/Chairman role, to boot - is beneficial neither to him or the club. He should step down permanently. Now.

This is a classic example of the blinkered VFC line. Your beloved chairman has recently stated that the appointment ....Sorry Pete, I understand your frustration but you sound like naughty, spoilt children who can't get their own way.

OK revelation time.
The opinion quoted above, is one with which I genuinely hold, but the words were "inspired" by a Supporters Trust Press Release from 10th June.  

Like many others the Aston Villa Supporters Trust were shocked at the news of Doug Ellis’s illness and wish him a speedy and healthy recovery. However, surely this must now be the warning sign to Doug that running a large company at the age of 81 is not beneficial to either him or the club......surely now the time has come to enjoy a belated retirement, letting others take over the reigns

I did this to show a couple of things - firstly that the line taken by VFC is often not so different at all from that of the "respectable and responsible" supporters trust, but that VFC "views" seem to raise a lot more comment and opprobrium than the Trust's views  and secondly because of two comments further up this thread - the one I highlighted from Dave a couple of pages back about

"...Ellis Out but we don't want to shout about it? That's a bit self-defeating...."

And LG's question

Why doesn't any other Villa supporters group say anything? There's plenty to say? Are they active?

The supporters trust in their understated, not wanting to shout about it - way seem to all want Ellis out (at the moment) and quietly anounced it on their website, and no one passes comment (or maybe even notices) "self defeating" indeed - yet VFC say the same (and shout about it) - and we get 30 odd pages on H&V about whether VFC are good /bad /tossers /irrelevant etc.

It all fills space and keeps people entertained, which is what this place is for, but....

note:The supporters trust (though they don't represent me) are right to want Ellis out and they are a worthy organisation.

[Laughing Gravity]

The Supporters Trust want Ellis out?

Really?

[dave.woodhall]

If the Trust's representative had stamped his foot and walked out of the AGM, then it would have aroused comment. If a Trust spokesman had made the comments that Jon Fear made in the story at the top of this tread, it would equally have inspired debate.

The Trust board, generally, does not believe that there's anything to be gained from running to the press on a regular basis, particularly when nothing is happening.

[Laughing Gravity]

particularly when nothing is happening.

Nothing is happening?

Do they go around blindfolded with candlewax in their ears?

[dave.woodhall]

particularly when nothing is happening.

Nothing is happening?

Do they go around blindfolded with candlewax in their ears?

Okay - so what's happening? That's 'what is actually happening?' as opposed to 'what is happening in a  parallel universe where half a word can be stretched into an entire novel?'

[pete bland]

Okay - so what's happening? That's 'what is actually happening?' as opposed to 'what is happening in a  parallel universe where half a word can be stretched into an entire novel?'

How about 1 rejected approach (at least) to buy the club, one on going at an early stage, the chairman having severe health problems, the Chief Exec resigning over a "difference of opinion about future direction"

But perhaps if you (anyone) is unaware as to what's happening, as shareholders you (anyone) might want to try and find out, perhaps by asking questions.

Or perhaps none of the things happening have any bearing on the future of the club and therefore are not cause to ask questions or pass comment. Perhaps it's more important to talk about other things?

[Laughing Gravity]

I agree, the only place where nothing is happening is the ST.

[Oscar Goldman]

But perhaps if you (anyone) is unaware as to what's happening, as shareholders you (anyone) might want to try and find out, perhaps by asking questions.

I seem to remember that one of the few blokes who’s consistently asked questions of Doug over the last twenty years was abused by a prominent VFC supporter as a “geriatric madman” after last year’s AGM.

Why do VFC people hate our senior citizens so much?  Do they all live with their parents and are grounded if they fail to note enough things with interest?

[Risso]

But perhaps if you (anyone) is unaware as to what's happening, as shareholders you (anyone) might want to try and find out, perhaps by asking questions.

I seem to remember that one of the few blokes who’s consistently asked questions of Doug over the last twenty years was abused by a prominent VFC supporter as a “geriatric madman” after last year’s AGM.

Still trying to continue your petty vendetta I see Stu.  I think your memory's playing tricks on you, I'd like to see the post where the phrase "geriatric madman" was used.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Yes, still yelling Ellis Out when he's close to packing the photos on his desk. Still more bothered about him leaving than - far more relevant to any right-thinking Villa fan -  who might be coming through the door to replace him.

I now understand the reason Pete and VFC have taken this stand. It seems from posts on other sites, the VFC do not believe Ellis is seriously looking to sell the club and it's basically all "spin". That therefore justifies their continued press releases/pressure/attacks etc on Ellis.

Why didn't you say that in the first place, Pete?