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Offline SoccerHQ

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3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« on: January 01, 2020, 06:13:44 PM »
Thought it was a big success today.

As we saw at VP Burnley are a very dangerous team when you stand off them and give them chance to swing in crosses. We certainly need that extra head at the back and limited Burnley to hardly anything for first 80 minutes.

Also meant we looked dangerous on the counter attack and could get overloads in the final third as we saw for the second.

I'd be sticking with this for a few weeks. I think it will make us harder to beat v likes of Leicester and Man. City and they'll find it harder to play through us. I think we're more likely to start getting some points off the top teams later on in the season than just going back to 4-3-3.

Think there's the potential for the squad to grow into this sort of formation that didn't happen when Lambert started playing it. Hopefully Dean has learnt that you don't just have to blindly stick to one sort of system now but only time will tell on that.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2020, 06:20:28 PM by SoccerHQ »

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Re: 3-5-2.
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2020, 06:16:22 PM »
Wasn’t it more 3-4-3 if anything with Jack and Trez playing narrow? Whatever it was we looked a lot better.

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Re: 3-5-2.
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2020, 06:19:37 PM »
It was more 343, with Trezuguet and Jack narrow, but it did allow us to flood support into arears of the final 3rd and getting much closer to Wesley.

I'd tweak it at home to play a 2nd striker, with Jack in a free central position. Obviously that's limited by only having Kodjia fit now.

The system worked very well. We were compact off the ball, Nkamba and Luiz didn't leave room in behind and neither did the wing backs.

I think over time and maybe at home, we will see the wing backs take up better advanced positions.

I liked the system and the flexibility and solidity it gave us.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2020, 06:21:13 PM by Ads »

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2020, 06:23:19 PM »
I've always liked it, and it's always served us well.

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Re: 3-5-2.
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2020, 06:24:15 PM »
I have thought for a while we certainly have the squad to play 3 5 2 or 3 4 3

We looked a lot more fluid today (although We need someone better than Trez who I thought again was poor) but with Mings supported each side by the impressive Konza and Hause we looked pretty solid against a very 1 dimensional opposition.

Thought Jack terrified them and Wes was all over their big defenders. If we could have Targett equally bombing forward on the left flank then it could be pretty attack minded.

What a difference a win makes

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2020, 06:25:15 PM »
I think the key point was that it was hopefully adapting the system to suit the opposition. Assuming that’s what it was that’s very encouraging.

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2020, 06:42:04 PM »
It's definitely earned another go against Leicester and Man City I'd say. We were way too open the last time we played Leicester so limiting space in behind should be the way to go. I'm not getting over excited about it though, Burnley created some good chances 2nd half and we let in a few too many crosses down our right I thought.

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2020, 06:43:47 PM »
It's adaptable I think, depending on the opposition. I think the main thing is, with our personnel is to make good use of that 3rd CH. 2 CH's with the way Smith wanted our fullbacks to play, wasn't working. I think you have the option in the 2 up top to have either Trez or AEG as a second striker to work the channels. If you go  up, it obviously suits them, but in that case I'd be inclined to play Taylor over Targett as an example, just so we're not too exposed on that flank. Guilbert is very attack minded as a FB/WB, so we can only play both in the right circumstances (with the 3 midfield or dependent on opposition). 

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2020, 06:45:23 PM »
You can Elmo into that mix if you want a more defensive version too. 

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2020, 06:50:13 PM »
It shouldn't have taken this long for the manager to adopt a new system. Dean should have open to a number of systems and tactical approaches throughout the season. So let's hope this gives him the confidence and belief to try different things vs other opponents as needed.

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2020, 06:57:18 PM »
Always liked 3-5-2, or variant of it.
Was saying we should use it when we had Lowton and Bennet as our two full backs. Not great defensively, but, two of the best crossers of the ball.

This season I’ve been surprised that we haven’t used it because we seem to have the players to for it. Targett in particular, I feel, would benefit

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2020, 07:07:19 PM »
It shouldn't have taken this long for the manager to adopt a new system. Dean should have open to a number of systems and tactical approaches throughout the season. So let's hope this gives him the confidence and belief to try different things vs other opponents as needed.

Give it a rest. I appreciate that you've nailed your colours to the mast but sometimes it's better to keep your counsel.

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2020, 07:15:03 PM »
He’s right though.

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2020, 07:16:44 PM »
I've not been calling for it, but I did think that when someone mentioned it during the summer as a possibility, despite Smith having no record of employing it in the past, they weren't talking out of their arse.

I've always believed he wants us narrower, and if this achieves it, let's do it. How we play is more important than the formation that gets us there.

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Re: 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2020, 07:17:03 PM »
He’s right though.

Possibly, but it doesn't show anybody in their best light to be snarking on what's been an unexpectedly positive day.

 


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