Watford v Aston Villa post match thread

[kippaxvilla2]

“My future isn’t in question. All I can do is get my players ready for the next game. We knew that it was going to be a tough season," he said.

“If you ask me about my future - then no - I’m thinking about the next game."

[PeterWithesShin]

I don't mind Deeney.

[Deano's Mullet]

I don't mind Deeney.

Hes like a Messiah on the Small Heath pages. You'd have thought THEY had beaten us.....

[brontebilly]

When you see a back four of Elmohamady, Konsa, House and Targett it's worrying, to then see a midfield in front of them that has Jota and Lansbury it gets frightening. Watford were only ever going to be big, strong, well organised and we had to match them. We didn't. To lose so pitifully with our opponents down to 10 (Yet again) says it all.

Lansbury.
I don’t want to scapegoat, but fuck me he is as bad as it gets.
Poncing around like a fucking show pony. He was a shit squad player in a team that finished 5th in the championship. How the fuck he is a starter in the premier league is beyond comprehension.

His efforts at Sheff Utd should have been his last in a Villa shirt. Lazy Bruce signing that somehow Smith seems to rate. I really wonder about our academy if we haven't someone better than Lansbury to be part of the first team squad. Surely O'Hare has more to his game?

[PeterWithesShin]

Lansbury is everything I dislike in a player, good whack of talent and wastes most of it.

[kippaxvilla2]

Deeney is to have a lounge named after him at Stans.  For being voted one of their top 10 legends.  The second non blues playing recipient after Paul whatshisface.

[David_Nab]

When you see a back four of Elmohamady, Konsa, House and Targett it's worrying, to then see a midfield in front of them that has Jota and Lansbury it gets frightening. Watford were only ever going to be big, strong, well organised and we had to match them. We didn't. To lose so pitifully with our opponents down to 10 (Yet again) says it all.

Lansbury.
I don’t want to scapegoat, but fuck me he is as bad as it gets.
Poncing around like a fucking show pony. He was a shit squad player in a team that finished 5th in the championship. How the fuck he is a starter in the premier league is beyond comprehension.

His efforts at Sheff Utd should have been his last in a Villa shirt. Lazy Bruce signing that somehow Smith seems to rate. I really wonder about our academy if we haven't someone better than Lansbury to be part of the first team squad. Surely O'Hare has more to his game?

Post match Smith even commented that Henri moved position which allowed them in for the first , can't believe he started today

[Matt C]

Differences in ability you can excuse, especially given the gulf from fifth place in the Championship to PL these days, but this tepid, meek throwing in of the towel we’re seeing increasingly in recent weeks is alarming and not good enough. This team seems to crumble under adversity.

[tomd2103]

When you see a back four of Elmohamady, Konsa, House and Targett it's worrying, to then see a midfield in front of them that has Jota and Lansbury it gets frightening. Watford were only ever going to be big, strong, well organised and we had to match them. We didn't. To lose so pitifully with our opponents down to 10 (Yet again) says it all.

Lansbury.
I don’t want to scapegoat, but fuck me he is as bad as it gets.
Poncing around like a fucking show pony. He was a shit squad player in a team that finished 5th in the championship. How the fuck he is a starter in the premier league is beyond comprehension.

Swans around, all 'look at me, I'm a professional footballer with my fancy tattoo sleeves and my shit hair cut' whilst delivering absolutely nothing.

All fart and absolutely zero shit.

Not even that.  All gurgling stomach and no fart or shit. 

[tomd2103]

How many times this season has Targett lay down crying while the game has carried on around him?
I think that’s at least 3.

I hate to use the term fucking Jessie, but he’s a right fucking Jessie,

The previous two times he has gone off when we were up against it, he has been fit to play the next game.  Wonder if that will be the case this time and if he is, then surely someone will see a bit of a pattern emerging. 

[robbo1874]

the goals are always so soft. Deeney scuffs it and Heaton and Hause both fail to keep it out. luiz dives in when there's no need and two free players at the back post when we've a man advantage.

Frankly it's amateur and Smith needs to go

I didn’t think there was anything wrong really with the goals,
Certainly not for either of the second and third to be disallowed.

The first one was a bit unlucky, cracking save from Heaton, then Deeney does well to get the rebound on target from a tight angle, but scuffs it and I think Heaton was maybe expecting it to go a bit higher and dives over it. Hause I think would’ve been a bit unsighted but Heaton and also probably wasn’t expecting it to go under the keeper.

2nd wasn’t a nailed on penalty, but it was a shove in the ribs rather than a shoulder charge and the defender can’t complain too much about it being given. The ref blew straightaway.

The third I thought was quick thinking and reaction from yet another incidence of us giving the ball away in dangerous areas. They reacted quicker and it was a great finish.

The shit ball retention set the tone early on, we just couldn’t keep it at all  and after the first went in, a spanking I feared.

Not sure who the match commentators were in UK, but Andy Thownsend was co-commentator on Optus Sport in Aus. He was trying to be fair to both sides, had some pretty fair criticism of Villa. Seems he still has affection for the club.

[adrenachrome]

How many times this season has Targett lay down crying while the game has carried on around him?
I think that’s at least 3.

I hate to use the term fucking Jessie, but he’s a right fucking Jessie,

The previous two times had has gone off when we were up against it, he has been fit to play the next game.  Wonder if that will be the case this time and if he is, then surely someone will see a big if a pattern emerging. 

I have never liked the cut of his jib, to be honest. I grew up watching Charlie Aitken who had his faults, but I always loved to watch him play.

Warnock was good for a bit, and got selected for England. Bouma was good for a while as well.  Even Bertrand on loan did not really cut it.

Colin Gibson was decent, so we sold him to Man U.

So it goes.

[rooboy316]

Dyche is a ginger Allardyce really. Can't argue with his results but the football is really poor and wouldn't be welcome at Villa Park.

Thing is, we've had years of poor football with poor results, the 10 game run last year aside. Even the up and coming, progressive type managers have reverted to poor football.  So I'd be perfectly happy, after years of this, to get someone in who gets results, regardless of how it pretty it looks.

[Scamps180]

When I started reading this thread I thought I'd fell asleep any woke up at the end of the season, with Smith gone
the way people are talking about other managers.
 His job this season was to stay up, and until we can't stay up the bloke ain't failed, yes it's poor at the moment but ffs at least he deserves one full season at the top level.

[RamboandBruno]

When I started reading this thread I thought I'd fell asleep any woke up at the end of the season, with Smith gone
the way people are talking about other managers.
 His job this season was to stay up, and until we can't stay up the bloke ain't failed, yes it's poor at the moment but ffs at least he deserves one full season at the top level.

I agree with this, though we appear to be in the minority. Though admit things are looking bleak and Dean is making mistakes, Grealish on the left doesn’t make any sense, less so with McGinn out and especially to accommodate Lansbury of all players. Hourihane should of been on the left.

We were actually lucky in that most results went our way yesterday. Norwich aren’t getting out of this, Watford night or the bubble might burst, Bournemouth and West Ham both look in trouble and there is sometimes a team that drops from the middle. I maintain newcastle are the worst team I’ve seen down the villa ‘this season (apart from the villa). But saying all that can’t see where our next wins coming from. Need any sort of reaction from players on New Years Day