Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread

[Clampy]

I think potentially there's a cracking player in Treseguet. He's been in and out the side and not really had a proper run which I think he should get. I honestly think in time he'll be really good for us.

[McGraths Dry Cleaning]

Movement, passing, defending crosses/set pieces/corners, taking throw ins, tracking back - all the basics Villa seem to have been unable to do for years.

In other circumastances I can see some of our players being effective - not at Villa where we seem to be unable to put a team together with a formation and strategy that works. I'm baffled. Smith is the latest manager to be be baffled.

Heads starting to drop - why don't our players ever give 100%? Other teams sweat blood but ours saunter around without a care in the world - something not right.

[Legion]

Forgot to say, top man CT. Thank you very much indeed for the ticket. Plus a big thank you to whoever handed my brand new pair of glasses in at the club shop as I must have lost them in there whilst getting a couple of Christmas presents for Aston-Lee. Weather was very kind for selling.

[Ian.]

I think potentially there's a cracking player in Treseguet. He's been in and out the side and not really had a proper run which I think he should get. I honestly think in time he'll be really good for us.

Me too, I’m convinced he’s going to be brilliant. He’s one summer signing I really really like.

[brontebilly]

I think potentially there's a cracking player in Treseguet. He's been in and out the side and not really had a proper run which I think he should get. I honestly think in time he'll be really good for us.

What do you see in him? I see a one paced one trick one footed donkey/pony. AEG at least has plenty of talent, I don't think Trez has any.

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I felt the full backs were left exposed all game. The two centre halves very poor, pulled about by a bit of pace.

Hourihane was a hologram, Luiz males one good pass, then gives it away, let's one tackle slip him and looks like a young player with potential.

Jack is wasted out wide. Their system put 3 or 4 on him at points. He needs to come back centrally and play through the middle.

Disappointing McGinn got injured so early on, as without him they played through our lines on the break too easily. I felt it was a foul on him before he was injured.

El Ghazi was anonymous, Wesley actually played alright and we looked a little more threatening with two up.

We were slow in and out of possesison and far too predictable in our attacks from the full backs. We need to drop 433 as it does not work and serves to isolate our best player.

Jack must play centrally in the midfield where he can go either way and not be shackled by space of the touchline.

Who we put in midfield around him is a much of a muchness. Nkamba certainly adds physical presence, but who else remains to be seen.

We're too slow in the final third. We need a centre forward who can carry a goal threat and play off the shoulder and somebody with pace in midfield who break beyond.

We are in desperate form and at such a critical time. Get January wrong and we could be relegated. Getting January right could mean not only a couple of new players, but a new man to coach them.

[itmustbe_it is!]

Go and get Big Sam, now. It's the only chance of making us hard to beat and with it a hope of staying up.

Fuck me

[SoccerHQ]

We've spent £60m+ on new defenders and keeper yet are conceding two goals a game on average.

We miss Mings badly.

For all his faults (and his form did dip in the games before he was injured) we're now seeing what a big miss he is in terms of leadership and organisation. Also missing him on the corners.

[Clampy]

I think potentially there's a cracking player in Treseguet. He's been in and out the side and not really had a proper run which I think he should get. I honestly think in time he'll be really good for us.

What do you see in him? I see a one paced one trick one footed donkey/pony. AEG at least has plenty of talent, I don't think Trez has any.

I just like the look of him. He get's into the box a fair bit and I think maybe next season we will see the best of him once he's properly settled. Writing him off as a one footed donkey is ridiculous.

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Trez offered more in 5 minutes than El Ghazi has in two games.

El Ghazi is frustratingly inconsistent. He's either electric or anonymous.

[AV82EC]

Trez offered more in 5 minutes than El Ghazi has in two games.

El Ghazi is frustratingly inconsistent. He's either electric or anonymous.

When was the last time he was electric I’m struggling to think of a game this season where he hasn’t been utterly anonymous.

[AsTallAsLions]

I think potentially there's a cracking player in Treseguet. He's been in and out the side and not really had a proper run which I think he should get. I honestly think in time he'll be really good for us.

What do you see in him? I see a one paced one trick one footed donkey/pony. AEG at least has plenty of talent, I don't think Trez has any.

Have to agree with bb here. Haven't seen anything in him to suggest he can ever be a cracking player in this league.

Maybe next season in the Championship.

[RamboandBruno]

I felt the full backs were left exposed all game. The two centre halves very poor, pulled about by a bit of pace.

Hourihane was a hologram, Luiz males one good pass, then gives it away, let's one tackle slip him and looks like a young player with potential.

Jack is wasted out wide. Their system put 3 or 4 on him at points. He needs to come back centrally and play through the middle.

Disappointing McGinn got injured so early on, as without him they played through our lines on the break too easily. I felt it was a foul on him before he was injured.

El Ghazi was anonymous, Wesley actually played alright and we looked a little more threatening with two up.

We were slow in and out of possesison and far too predictable in our attacks from the full backs. We need to drop 433 as it does not work and serves to isolate our best player.

Jack must play centrally in the midfield where he can go either way and not be shackled by space of the touchline.

Who we put in midfield around him is a much of a muchness. Nkamba certainly adds physical presence, but who else remains to be seen.

We're too slow in the final third. We need a centre forward who can carry a goal threat and play off the shoulder and somebody with pace in midfield who break beyond.

We are in desperate form and at such a critical time. Get January wrong and we could be relegated. Getting January right could mean not only a couple of new players, but a new man to coach them.

Agree with virtually all of this, apart from the new manager bit, but I may be blindingly loyal.

I was defending El Ghazi to a villa mate a few weeks ago and I think he has more in his locker than Trez, but he can be so shockingly poor at times, I think he needs to be left out for the time being. I find Luiz most frustrating, he has bags of skill and can find a pass but can be so lightweight, I think he needs to try pushing him further forwards, but maybe grasping at straws. January is massive and I think they may need to alter their buying potential philosophy to get some proven nous in the middle and up front. Saying all that a baggies mate of mine was saying Benrahma was best player on pitch when they played Brentford yesterday. Depending on how long mcginns going to be out maybe him on the wing and a relatively experienced forward is what we need.

[Risso]

I think potentially there's a cracking player in Treseguet. He's been in and out the side and not really had a proper run which I think he should get. I honestly think in time he'll be really good for us.

What do you see in him? I see a one paced one trick one footed donkey/pony. AEG at least has plenty of talent, I don't think Trez has any.

I just like the look of him. He get's into the box a fair bit and I think maybe next season we will see the best of him once he's properly settled. Writing him off as a one footed donkey is ridiculous.

It's only as ridiculous as saying there's a cracking player in there, when to date there has been no evidence of that whatsoever.

[Clampy]

I think potentially there's a cracking player in Treseguet. He's been in and out the side and not really had a proper run which I think he should get. I honestly think in time he'll be really good for us.

What do you see in him? I see a one paced one trick one footed donkey/pony. AEG at least has plenty of talent, I don't think Trez has any.

I just like the look of him. He get's into the box a fair bit and I think maybe next season we will see the best of him once he's properly settled. Writing him off as a one footed donkey is ridiculous.

It's only as ridiculous as saying there's a cracking player in there, when to date there has been no evidence of that whatsoever.

Not half as ridiculous as calling a international winger a one footed donkey but hey, let's miserably write him off after a few months shall we?