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Offline Luke8

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1395 on: February 03, 2020, 01:47:39 PM »
We keep showing that we can lose to any one, we give up more chances to the opposition than any other team and have not done anything to address that.
Yesterday’s result was a massive blow and I can’t help thinking if we can’t show up against Bournemouth then there is something fundamentally wrong with the set up.

Yes, the fundamental issue is that we've had to buy virtually an entire team to play in the toughest league, with minimum preparation.

That we're doing better than the other Play_Off winners have suggests we're actually doing better than we should, not worse. I'm disappointed when we lose, and relegation was always going to be hanging over us this season. I hoped, and thought, that we may have kicked on a bit but it's not happened, yet.
We had an advantage over many play off teams with Mings SJM and Jack, we bought a Top Goalkeeper. Not many if any play off teams have that luxury.
I think the team is potentially better than the results we are getting.
Like you I thought we turned the corner after Watford away but we obviously haven’t.

I do get what you are saying, but successfully recruiting two very good players is not an advantage - it’s a job well done by the club.

I think the team has shown the potential to be better than our results/current position but a lack of experience/nous is exactly why we are in the position that we are currently in. Most of our players were either young or lacking top flight experience, or both.

I don’t think it’s fair to say we haven’t shown improvement since the Watford away game. We generally look more solid that we previously did and our form and performances have generally been better than they were prior to that game.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1396 on: February 03, 2020, 02:35:11 PM »
Luke, we have shown improvement in some games then Bournemouth happens.
It was a shit show against a bang average team with 10 men for most of the second half.

Offline Luke8

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1397 on: February 03, 2020, 03:09:59 PM »
Yeah, but that’s looking at one game in isolation. Since the Watford game you mentioned, we have played seven times with our first team and I would say we have had four at least pretty good performances, one average one (Brighton) and two poor games.

We are as likely to put in a good performance in our next game as a poor one.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1398 on: February 03, 2020, 09:54:45 PM »
In '88 we drew and relied on a result after we'd finished playing, in '89 we relied on a game played over a week after we'd played and drawn our last of the season. Damo hardly chose the most convining of last day performances!


I remember in 1989 West Ham still had two games in hand to overtake and relegate us away against Forest and Liverpool due to Hillsborough. I was drinking in the Red Lion in Shirley when I heard Leroy Rosenior had scored two goals to beat Forest at the City Ground. A few days later I was listening at home on the radio when West Ham took a one nil lead at Anfield and at that point we were down. Fortunately Liverpool hit back and scored five.

West Ham didn't take the lead, they equalised. So were never in the relegation zone that evening.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1399 on: February 03, 2020, 11:36:59 PM »
94/95 and Norwich away was last time we were in relegation trouble on last day in top division I think.

Even then it was a pretty small chance we'd go down as think Palace lost anyway.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1400 on: February 03, 2020, 11:38:59 PM »
94/95 and Norwich away was last time we were in relegation trouble on last day in top division I think.

Even then it was a pretty small chance we'd go down as think Palace lost anyway.

In 2011-12 we could still have gone if there'd been about a twelve goal shift.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1401 on: February 03, 2020, 11:40:37 PM »
Didn't a Marcus Allback goal get us out of trouble one season?

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1402 on: February 03, 2020, 11:43:14 PM »
Didn't a Marcus Allback goal get us out of trouble one season?

Yes. SGT season in the premier league. That was when West Ham went down on 42 points. Our home form bar one obvious defeat was very good that year but only one away win meant we were hovering in the bottom six pretty much all season, can't remember us ever being in the bottom 3 at any point though so always sensed we'd have just enough and we did.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1403 on: February 04, 2020, 10:22:29 AM »
Didn't a Marcus Allback goal get us out of trouble one season?

Yes. SGT season in the premier league. That was when West Ham went down on 42 points. Our home form bar one obvious defeat was very good that year but only one away win meant we were hovering in the bottom six pretty much all season, can't remember us ever being in the bottom 3 at any point though so always sensed we'd have just enough and we did.
i probably am wrong, but I remember it was when we had that wheatabix box colour away kit

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1404 on: February 05, 2020, 01:58:28 PM »
Anyway...Anyone starting to get worried?

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1405 on: February 05, 2020, 02:09:45 PM »
Anyway...Anyone starting to get worried?
I actually thought we would be ok until Arsenal away.
Then I realized the frailty of the team and the manager. Any team can score against us.
Every now and then we have a feel good performance and result but there are too many Watford away Bournemouth Southampton outcomes. I also think Wembley is a distraction we could do without.
So  still have hope not expectation.
 

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1406 on: February 05, 2020, 02:48:13 PM »
I think we are in big trouble.

We still have liverpool, united, spurs, chelsea, arsenal, Leicester and wolves to play. We need to win some of these games if we are to have any hope of staying up.

We really dont want this going fonal game away tk west ham who themselves might need the win.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1407 on: February 05, 2020, 05:54:19 PM »
United, Arsenal and Wolves at home in a local derby represent good opportunities to win games as far as I'm concerned. Arsenal in particular are absolute shite away from home.

Spurs at home, who knows. They barely scarped a 0-0 with Watford, a side 2nd bottom and managed to get battered at home to City and win with 2 shots on target before Son's effort in the 93rd minute to give their keeper a save.

We've already proven we can give Leicester a game too.


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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1408 on: February 05, 2020, 07:28:03 PM »
The only Top 10 team we have beaten is Everton.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1409 on: February 05, 2020, 08:19:43 PM »
We beat a full strength Leicester team last week.

 


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