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Offline Brassneck

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2019, 10:22:06 PM »
I wasn’t aware of that incident. However, i was further back, right next to the home fans.  There was a group of stewards there who were continually antagonising the Villa fans whilst ignoring what the home fans were doing.

I left the ground with the opinion that some stewards enjoy confrontation and actually invite it. 

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2019, 10:26:41 PM »
What those videos don’t show is the scummy stewards goading the fans at the final whistle. Absolute scumbags.

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2019, 10:28:06 PM »
Edit: wrong thread, sorry.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 10:31:14 PM by Sexual Ealing »

Offline Steve67

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2019, 10:33:55 PM »
I don't think any of them can be covered in glory.  There are fists being thrown by fans and an over zealous copper smashing people.  No-one wins with this sort of shit.

The tweet about a 'shambles of a club' is also not necessary either.

Offline Pat McMahon

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2019, 10:36:24 PM »
I couldn’t see clearly what was happening as I was in row 28. But I did see a senior security official ( suit, ear piece, no hi viz jacket) seemingly stop Villa players getting too close to the away end. Engels seemed miffed with him.

Offline BlackCountryVilla

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2019, 10:43:16 PM »
Fair play to our fans for wading in and defending the lad/lads who were grabbed or hit down the front. Far too often you see jobsworth stewards or coppers drag fans away for doing very little whilst their fellow fans stand and watch. Our fans were rightly angry after that refereeing display, not just the goal decision but all game he wound our fans up. Frustrations spilled over at the end and the stewards antagonised and made the situation worse.

Yeah, forget getting out of the way and minding your own business, far more sensible to wade in and start throwing a few punches, that's bound to help.

Bunch of absolute bellends in that video.
I guess you'd have to have been there to know who was at fault. While i don't condone violence if that was one of my mates being pinned down and whacked with batons im pretty sure i'd have "waded in"
As would I. The last thing I want to see is trouble on the terraces but images of that coward swinging his baton at someone offering no resistance cannot be ignored. Absolute disgrace.

Offline kentishvillan

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2019, 10:48:07 PM »
I don't think any of them can be covered in glory.  There are fists being thrown by fans and an over zealous copper smashing people.  No-one wins with this sort of shit.

The tweet about a 'shambles of a club' is also not necessary either.
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I saw the whole thing from yards away. Simply put, a small minority of Villa fans started the whole incident by throwing punches and acting like twats. Shameful behaviour indeed !

Offline Pat McMahon

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2019, 10:51:54 PM »
There seem to be a fair few dickheads in the crowd. The police reaction was way over the top, though. No excuse for hitting someone who is offering no resistance over and over. I hope that baton-wielding coward loses his job. They're supposed to keep supporters safe, not injure them.

Standard practice from the met. Football fans, protesters, just a good excuse for the thugs to give people a kicking
My ex brother in law is a cop in Brum and he said the same thing

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2019, 10:54:26 PM »
If you watch the seconds clip, about 20 secs in on the bottom left corner you see a fella in a claret polo(?) shirt involved with police, that becomes the footage you see in the first video filmed from the Villa POV as he's the fella being hit by the copper.

Offline kieron

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2019, 12:47:03 PM »
Welcome to Boris' s Britain
Police overreacting in a violent way towards football fans
Sectarian violence in Glasgow
Democracy demonstrations across the country
The shape of things to come in Post Brexit Britain
The S*n will be calling for fences at football grounds and greater  powers for the police to "assault"  people with impunity

Politicising the incident seems a tad bizarre.

Offline AV82EC

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2019, 12:49:35 PM »
From looking at a few clips it looks like a small minority of Villa fans being total bellends, really poor stewarding and a total overreaction by a couple of coppers.


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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2019, 01:08:57 PM »
Welcome to Boris' s Britain
Police overreacting in a violent way towards football fans
Sectarian violence in Glasgow
Democracy demonstrations across the country
The shape of things to come in Post Brexit Britain
The S*n will be calling for fences at football grounds and greater  powers for the police to "assault"  people with impunity

Eh?

Offline Des Little

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2019, 01:16:07 PM »
Welcome to Boris' s Britain
Police overreacting in a violent way towards football fans
Sectarian violence in Glasgow
Democracy demonstrations across the country
The shape of things to come in Post Brexit Britain
The S*n will be calling for fences at football grounds and greater  powers for the police to "assault"  people with impunity

Eh?

I’m sure I saw BoJo swinging punches in his Muller 94 away shirt

Offline wittonwarrior

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2019, 01:47:13 PM »
I was right by the front on the side on crutches. It wasn't good and unfortunately it will only be one or two scapegoats who will get a banning order. The copper who waded in with his baton is actually palace's gladden who himself should get banned.

A few dickheads did get involved but the whole stewarding there needs looking at

Offline Pete3206

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Re: Violent scenes
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2019, 03:00:39 PM »
By scapegoats, do you mean utter bellends who needlessly got involved in fighting?

I have no sympathy for anyone who gets banned. 

 


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