Crystal Palace v Aston Villa post match thread

[mr underhill]

shit happens to every side in any league and this sort of thing will happen over and over again . The fact is, we were dreadful yesterday and lost.

[The Edge]

May have been posted already so apologies.
Worth noting that Kevin Friend was the 4th official in the 2018 Play Off Final stood yards from where Fredericks stamped on Grealish.

Chris Kavanagh is listed as the 4th official. Unless there was a late change?

Edit: sorry i was looking at the wrong game. Yes you are right it was Mr Friend who stood with a perfect view of Fredricks stamping on Jacks chest. He needs looking into. It would appear to be personal.

[AV82EC]

May have been posted already so apologies.
Worth noting that Kevin Friend was the 4th official in the 2018 Play Off Final stood yards from where Fredericks stamped on Grealish.

Chris Kavanagh is listed as the 4th official. Unless there was a late change?

Edit: sorry i was looking at the wrong game. Yes you are right it was Mr Friend who stood with a perfect view of Fredricks stamping on Jacks chest. He needs looking into. It would appear to be personal.

It was actually Jacks leg but don’t let my pedantry stand in the way of giving Kevin Friend every single pelter he deserves.

[Risso]

Lambert wrote to the head of the refs to directly complain about Friend. We should do so again. That level of incompetence just can’t be tolerated.

At least that prick Friend gets to hear how shit he is at his job on national TV.

[The Edge]

May have been posted already so apologies.
Worth noting that Kevin Friend was the 4th official in the 2018 Play Off Final stood yards from where Fredericks stamped on Grealish.

Chris Kavanagh is listed as the 4th official. Unless there was a late change?

Edit: sorry i was looking at the wrong game. Yes you are right it was Mr Friend who stood with a perfect view of Fredricks stamping on Jacks chest. He needs looking into. It would appear to be personal.

It was actually Jacks leg but don’t let my pedantry stand in the way of giving Kevin Friend every single pelter he deserves.

Yes it was his leg not his chest. I think i need to wake up properly before i start posting.

[ROBBO]

Jack got booked so can we ask for a review to get the card rescinded at the very least it will clear Jack of cheating. I did see him call play on a few minutes earlier when the replay clearly showed Jack was fouled.

[VillaAlways]

Lambert wrote to the head of the refs to directly complain about Friend. We should do so again. That level of incompetence just can’t be tolerated.

At least that prick Friend gets to hear how shit he is at his job on national TV.

It’s not incompetence. He clearly dislikes us and should never officiate for us again

[ChicagoLion]

Friend had already decided the outcome of the situation.

[baddowvillans]

Trying to be balanced about yesterday's result but having looked at it so many times it was unfair and ultimately cost us a point.  My bigger concern - and I am not writing us off - but when I look at the sides that I felt we needed to finish above just 3 of; so Southampton, Brighton Burnley Bournemouth sheffield utd Norwich etc they all appear to play with a lot more purpose and pace than we do.  Can you see us coming from 2 down to draw at Chelsea?  At the moment I'm not sure I can.  I know we will be better when the new players bed in but that can't come soon enough

[The Edge]

Trying to be balanced about yesterday's result but having looked at it so many times it was unfair and ultimately cost us a point.  My bigger concern - and I am not writing us off - but when I look at the sides that I felt we needed to finish above just 3 of; so Southampton, Brighton Burnley Bournemouth sheffield utd Norwich etc they all appear to play with a lot more purpose and pace than we do.  Can you see us coming from 2 down to draw at Chelsea?  At the moment I'm not sure I can.  I know we will be better when the new players bed in but that can't come soon enough

It's all about fine margins. Ayew got very lucky with the way the ball fell so kindly for him under pressure from Mings & Grealish. He took it well though to be fair. Had the ref not decided to fuck us over we could of took all the points with a classic smash n grab. Fine margins.

[AV82EC]

The thing that struck me watching the replay was Friend wasn’t up with play and his positioning was awful which suggests he’s got a week reffing in the Championship coming up the utterly useless ****.

I find it staggering that anyone thinks Grealish dived, there was quite clearly contact with Cahill, enough to unbalance Grealish further after the push from Zaha and due to his momentum and the contact from Cahill he went down. It really sticks in the throat that with at least 3 or 4 angles on it in the VAR booth they’re saying it’s diving and not a penalty. That’s staggeringly incomprehensible that two officials can view the incident as so.

Clear push by Zaha - not given
Clear foul by Cahill - not given

I think Mark Chapmans tweet really does sum it all up, PGMOL just close ranks and try and justify their decision rather than hold their hands up and admit an official made an error.

The quality of refereeing in this country has drastically reduced over the last 15 years. You’d get the odd game every season where the ref had a stinker and you’d have a whinge but last season I can think of at least 10 games where the ref quite patently wasn’t up to the job and was appalling for both teams. We’ve had two games from 4 just this season where the ref has made major mistakes.

No coincidence that someone on here or Twatter commented that it’s no surprise there were no English refs at the last World Cup.

All of that said, we were bobbins and a point would have been daylight robbery. Dean has got some serious thinking to do about our approach, there is a certain naivety and lack of physicality that is all too apparent in the first few performances. Still it’s going to take time to gel and we’re still settling. Onwards....

[Villafirst]

Lambert wrote to the head of the refs to directly complain about Friend. We should do so again. That level of incompetence just can’t be tolerated.

At least that prick Friend gets to hear how shit he is at his job on national TV.

Be interesting if Friend referees a Villa home game don't you think?  The club should put in a formal complaint. Friend has history if Lambert complained about him before. Jermaine Jenas was particularly scathing about the tosser on MOTD. Friend deseves some form of punishment.

[Risso]

Trying to be balanced about yesterday's result but having looked at it so many times it was unfair and ultimately cost us a point.  My bigger concern - and I am not writing us off - but when I look at the sides that I felt we needed to finish above just 3 of; so Southampton, Brighton Burnley Bournemouth sheffield utd Norwich etc they all appear to play with a lot more purpose and pace than we do.  Can you see us coming from 2 down to draw at Chelsea?  At the moment I'm not sure I can.  I know we will be better when the new players bed in but that can't come soon enough

It's all about fine margins. Ayew got very lucky with the way the ball fell so kindly for him under pressure from Mings & Grealish. He took it well though to be fair. Had the ref not decided to fuck us over we could of took all the points with a classic smash n grab. Fine margins.

I don't think Ayew was lucky, it was just piss poor defending from first Jack, then Mings.

[Kimaster1976]

As was shown on Match of the day, there is no way Friend had time to get the whistle to his mouth in that time and his arms never left his side, he had that whistle in his mouth ready, he had already decided the outcome of that attack as Grealish was running through and it was going to be we was not scoring whatever way possible.

Look how many cards we were being dished out and free kicks they were getting, yet the other way round Palace were not being punished.

It was complete biased refereeing all game.

He SHOULD NOT be the ref for any single Villa game again this season.

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

He should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute and never ref another game!!
I wouldn't give him a parks match.