Crystal Palace v Aston Villa post match thread

[SamTheMouse]

It was comfortably our worst performance since the start of the season, but I still think we'll improve.

The display against Everton was very good and that has to be the benchmark. If we can reproduce that at home consistently we'll be fine.

[KevinGage]

...and Selhurst Park has to be the worst ground in the Prem. Considering they have been in the top flight for a good few years, it's just incredible that it's still stuck in the 80s in every aspect.

The master of précis Our Darren said we played shit and Selhurst Park is a shit ground a while back.  Today we had a shit ref for the full set.

[Badsastard]

That's all well and good.

But when he dishes out four yellow cards early doors you understand players being far more cautious and playing within themselves.

Agreed, dishing out 4 yellow cards in the first 40 minutes, 3 of which were to defensive players, while giving Palace free rein to commit bookable offences with impunity puts us at a huge disadvantage.

Spurs and Everton both got away with persistent tactical fouling. The standard of refereeing has been awful so far.

Unless I've missed it nobody has mentioned the Davis for Jota substitution at 0-0. I found this unorthodox to say the least. I'd have expected probably Hourihane to come on into a 4-4-1 formation personally.

[steamer]

Then we should report the fucker again
However, we are clearly battling. We have been on the backfoot in every game we have played.
Against Everton at home we did not have a single corner.
We have a break to assess where we are but I hope we come back with a bit more a bit more attacking intent.
Although we support the team and the settling in of the new guys, it will take a couple more transfer windows to have a team that meets the standard.
since we went down the established teams (or the ones still there) have had how many windows, 6  I guess to strengthen their teams.
It shows
Physically we are out muscled and harried.
Onwards and upwards, but there seems to me a  big gap.   

[villadelph]

That's all well and good.

But when he dishes out four yellow cards early doors you understand players being far more cautious and playing within themselves.

Agreed, dishing out 4 yellow cards in the first 40 minutes, 3 of which were to defensive players, while giving Palace free rein to commit bookable offences with impunity puts us at a huge disadvantage.

Spurs and Everton both got away with persistent tactical fouling. The standard of refereeing has been awful so far.

Unless I've missed it nobody has mentioned the Davis for Jota substitution at 0-0. I found this unorthodox to say the least. I'd have expected probably Hourihane to come on into a 4-4-1 formation personally.

How did Ayew's late stamp on Taylor and SJM getting his shirt grabbed at the top of the box go uncautioned?

[KevinGage]

S*n have pics of it kicking off in the away end after the final whistle.

Not providing a link, obv.

Looks like Engels was there applauding the support and fans were moving down towards him. So maybe overzealous police with batons weren't required.

[Goldie.7]

One bright spot for me today was Keinan's hold-up play, he did really well when he came on.

Keinan did more in 30 minutes than Wesley did in pretty much the entire game. I'm also not buying this nonsense that Wesley had "no outlet and he was isolated" he made himself isolated by not coming for the ball, laying it off and making a run.

[Stu]

I'm far more fucked off at VAR over the disallowed goal, Friend was incompetent all game so no surprise he got that wrong as well, VAR is meant to be there to fix things when a ref is shit/has a bad game/makes a genuine mistake.

VAR is overseen by a panel of referees in a room somewhere in each stadium. If you think they will overturn their colleague's decisions then I have a bridge to sell you.

[Legion]

Is it a nice bridge? What colour is it?

[villa `cross the mersey]

Then we should report the fucker again
However, we are clearly battling. We have been on the backfoot in every game we have played.
Against Everton at home we did not have a single corner.
We have a break to assess where we are but I hope we come back with a bit more a bit more attacking intent.
Although we support the team and the settling in of the new guys, it will take a couple more transfer windows to have a team that meets the standard.
since we went down the established teams (or the ones still there) have had how many windows, 6  I guess to strengthen their teams.
It shows
Physically we are out muscled and harried.
Onwards and upwards, but there seems to me a  big gap.   

Spot on Steamer ....it's quite  concerning just how we are being outbattled , particularly in midfield .
I really didn't foresee us struggling against Bournemouth and Palace - doesn't auger well for the games against Liverpool, Citeh and Chelski.... lot of work required in the short break
Hopefully Mings comes through the Internationals unscathed

[PeterWithesShin]

video of the police at the away end

https://twitter.com/aaronsmurphy/status/1167833839328210947

[PeterWithesShin]

https://twitter.com/EnderssFM/status/1167834459242213376

[villa `cross the mersey]

Is it a nice bridge? What colour is it?

knowing our luck it's a bridge " too far"

[villa `cross the mersey]

video of the police at the away end

https://twitter.com/aaronsmurphy/status/1167833839328210947

I'm no solicitor but the response from the police seems to be excessive and to use a " weapon" so indiscriminately is surely " assault by battering" at the very least
I bet the"press" will see things differently, support the police and stewards with our club and fans  being pilloried again

[PeterWithesShin]

In fairness the second video posted doesn't seem to show a few of our fans in the greatest light either