Crystal Palace v Aston Villa post match thread

[Toronto Villa]

A review of the incident couldn’t give us a goal after the whistle was blown but surely it could have given us a penalty instead of a free kick against us? Isn’t it supposed to review debatable penalty decisions - clear and obvious errors?

At minimum a free kick from the initial contact by Zaha on Grealish. But that in essence should have gone to review and a goal given as we would have been given the advantage from both fouls on Grealish.

[Fred Crump]

Remember when we used to say the that one of the bonus's of going up would be to not have to deal with the Championship referees any more? Sigh.

Very true. On reflection they were intermittently poor but not so comprehensively one sidedly shite as this clown.

[AsTallAsLions]

We could do with a game on Tuesday really but now have 2 weeks to mull over that.

The decision is that bad on every level, you can put one decision down to a mistake or ineptness but on the back of everything else that happened in that game he was always going to find a way to rule out our goal whenever/if we managed to score.

This is what I don't understand about people saying he's not a cheat he's just inept. Deano put it perfectly after the game: first 3 fouls of the game were on us, two on the edge of their box, not a single yellow given for those. Then within ten minutes of play we were given 4 yellows.

He's a fucking cod and a disgrace.

[charleeco7]

We were poor and I’m not sure Douglas is up to speed and should be starting from the bench for me.
Today’s match proved to me what I have been thinking for the first three games, referees have been told to watch Jack as he dives/goes down to easily, hence he is getting no protection.

[achilles]

Did the ref blow his whistle for the free kick against Grealish before the goal was scored? If so, presumably VAR couldn't overturn it. If not, then failing to go to VAR appears ridiculous.

VAR have confirmed they didn't disagree with Friend's pathetic decision, namely - that JG had apparently 'dived'.

What a shower of utter wankers.

Of course they are going to agree, after the event, because they just all stick together when one of their own gets it totally wrong, it is a exclusive club didn't you know!!

Anyway we just have to move on, we played badly but could (should) have got a point, that to me is a major postive, however our home form is going to be critical!

[hilts_coolerking]

This is what I don't understand about people saying he's not a cheat he's just inept. Deano put it perfectly after the game: first 3 fouls of the game were on us, two on the edge of their box, not a single yellow given for those. Then within ten minutes of play we were given 4 yellows.

True but that doesn't mean those 4 yellows were all incorrect decisions.

[ez]

A review of the incident couldn’t give us a goal after the whistle was blown but surely it could have given us a penalty instead of a free kick against us? Isn’t it supposed to review debatable penalty decisions - clear and obvious errors?

Agree. Surely var would have seen that the one thing it definately wasn't is a free kick to palace.

[Toronto Villa]

Gary Lineker

The disallowed goal for @AVFCOfficial in the last minute has to be seen to be believed. Why VAR didn’t correct what appeared to be an awful refereeing error is beyond me.

[curiousorange]

The problem with VAR is that now we have the facility, we want all contentious decisions reviewed regardless of where they happen, whereas IFAB want to limit it to make only decisions which could decide a game like a penalty or a red card. Clearly, in this case, you want VAR to review this period of action but it's not there for that under current regulations. Trouble is, where does a decision not become contentious? In midfield? You might get into a situation where all decisions beyond the eighteen yard line get looked at, which is ridiculous but would have sorted the one today.

But in short, VAR couldn't actually have done anything for us. What should have happened, and where we were cheated, was that Kevin Friend should have kept his whistle out of his mouth, played advantage like a proper referee and if he wasn't sure, consulted with his assistants after the goal went in. So instead of seminars on technology, maybe IFAB should be reminding referees how to use a fucking whistle.

[Ads]

This is what I don't understand about people saying he's not a cheat he's just inept. Deano put it perfectly after the game: first 3 fouls of the game were on us, two on the edge of their box, not a single yellow given for those. Then within ten minutes of play we were given 4 yellows.

True but that's doesn't mean those 4 yellows were all incorrect decisions.

The issue when Zaha is getting away with it and Palace in general are getting away with challenges that our players were being booked for.

[dave.woodhall]

We are now 18th having just played some of the worst "Premier League" football I've seen in a while. I honestly think we are in big trouble.

And out they crawl.

If you thought we played well and were set-up to win that game anymore than a possible 0-1  then you're delusional.

As for "out they crawl" well that's a load of bollocks because I commented on our previous game.

And how often were you on here during our record-breaking run of wins and after we got promoted?

[KRS]

Haven’t seen any highlights yet but I’m fuming from what I’ve been hearing and reading. Plenty of teams pick up points when they don’t play well so I don’t care whether we deserved a point or not, but to be robbed of what could be a very valuable a point due to the incompetence of match officials in an era where we are using new video technology to get decisions right is an absolute embarrassing disgrace.

I’m also sick of hearing Jack being accused of dining when he gets kicked all over the shop game in, game out. When you have pundits, commentators and managers saying it’s ok for a player to go if they are touched (Scott Parker last night being the latest) then it’s more than a bit of a hypocritical double edged sword for anyone to throw diving accusations at Jack.

[Smithy]

Having just watched the short sky sports highlights, you can hear the whistle blown just as Henri is about to shoot, so VAR can't actually 'award' the goal, as play had stopped - even if they wanted to.  They COULD have corrected the ref's mistake and given us a free-kick or a penalty, but there is no way within the current rules to give us a goal in those circumstances. Refs are supposed to play on a little longer, knowing VAR can correct a mistake, but he blew so quickly that was never an option. It's shit, but it's the way it is.

That said, not sure we really deserved much from today by the sounds of it, but a disallowed goal like that is going to hurt for a while I think...

[CJ]

Gary Lineker

The disallowed goal for @AVFCOfficial in the last minute has to be seen to be believed. Why VAR didn’t correct what appeared to be an awful refereeing error is beyond me.

Doubtless Smurphy will find some way to give an alternative view of events

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

VAR is a bumper bag of shite but I hope it isn't used to mask the work of Kevin Friend today. VAR isn't responsible for his whopping ineptitude, he achieved those staggeringly low levels of competence all on his own. And wasn't he pleased with himself?  I hope his performance gets the spotlight it deserves.

Aside from that imbecile we were rubbish. We deserved nothing, but we should have had a point.