Crystal Palace v Aston Villa post match thread

[kippaxvilla2]

People are assuming that Palace are crap.  They’re no mugs and Woy has them well organised.  That said these are the type of places we need to pick up the odd win or draw.

[Dogtanian]

One thing we really have to work on is keeping the ball when we are under the cosh.  Too often we smash it back up the pitch, or send long balls out, or have the ball for two minutes and instead of making the opposition work and letting our defence rest we smash a long effort over the bar from outside the area and within seconds we are under the cosh again.

[OCD]

People are assuming that Palace are crap.  They’re no mugs and Woy has them well organised.  That said these are the type of places we need to pick up the odd win or draw.

We would have done but for one of the worst refereeing decisions we'll see this year.

[Ads]

Palace should have had 3? Really? McCarthy and his curling shot apart, Heaton hasn't really had too much to do. They slung more balls into the box, especially following the sending off, but they were hardly impressive themselves.

[clash city rocker]

Having had time to reflect on the game and then the TV highlights I have come to the conclusion that although we didn't outlay palace we were robbed of a point by either an incompetent referee or a cheat of a referee.  As for VAR ,the best thing the F.A.can done now is to stick it up their arse as it is a complete and utter waste of time.

[paul_e]

I think it's very easy to focus on the disallowed goal and forget just how poor the ref was until that point. The bookings for Luiz, Trez and Fred were the only fouls we committed in that 7-8 minute period and none of them was a clear yellow, especially given some of the challenges he'd let go until that point. As I said, they got a yellow for their 11 foul, we had trez given his 2nd yellow, to make our fifth, for our 11th foul and if you just watch all of the fouls without context of which were given cards there's no chance you given us 5 cards to 1 for them. All the bookings in the first half were harsh and the only one that could be justified as totting up was Guilbert. As for Trez's 2nd I fail to see how that was different from 3-4 other fouls during the game that were just free kicks.

[PeterWithesShin]

I thought both yellows for Trez were bookings. Not saying the ref wasn't shite but those were 2 of the few things I think he got right.

[p_ad]

It really does not matter whether palace should/could have been 3 or 4 up, the fact is they were not and we had a legitimate goal scrubbed .
  Some people said up thread we always hear how good teams play badly but hang on for the points,I don't care that we did not play great I do care that we lost a point due to a shit ref

[SoccerHQ]

We, literally, lost the game because of the referee.

In the end yes. But we played so poorly overall that it shouldn’t have even mattered. Palace should have been 3 up at least.

Might've been just me but I really don't think Palace threatened that much before we went down to 10 men. They had McArthur chance that went over and a free kick Heaton easily pushed around the post but apart from that that was it unless I've forgotten anything obvious.

After the red they had 5-6 corners and yes the goal felt a matter of time but generally to me in games between two similar teams e.g. not playing Liverpool or Man. City the home team is generally the ones expected to get the most shots and possession? We did that v Bournemouth anyway with 7 shots on target.

Palace had 5 shots on target. I think as an away team you'd be pretty happy with that over 95 minutes particularly as usually 2-3 shots are just like backpasses straight at the keeper. Would be very unlucky if say 3 or 4 goals resulted from that.

More disappointing was the lack of any serious attacking threat from us. We don't really look that capable of quick counter attacks away from home so think it's going to be a struggle to score much on the road until we get an easier run of away games from January ownwards.

[SoccerHQ]

I'm sure i've seen refs whistle for dives before and give the opposition a free kick.

Yep, you have to stop play to actually caution players. Plenty of times ref has whistled, fans start cheering as they think penalty is going to be awarded and then ref gestures the other way and books player so it does happen a fair bit.

[paul_e]

I thought both yellows for Trez were bookings. Not saying the ref wasn't shite but those were 2 of the few things I think he got right.

I think both could be given as yellow but that there were plenty of examples in the game of similar tackles that weren't given, that was my point. I think the ref decided 2/3 of our players were divers before kickoff and wasn't planning on giving them anything and wanted to get them booked as soon as he could.

[Villa in Denmark]

People are assuming that Palace are crap.  They’re no mugs and Woy has them well organised.  That said these are the type of places we need to pick up the odd win or draw.

I'm assuming a "commentator's fact" is true, but according to the guy on my stream yesterday only Liverpool and Man City have picked up more points than Palace in 2019, in which case crap they ain't.

[SoccerHQ]

Crystal Palace are a low scoring but defensively tight team. I don't think 1-0 either way was a shock scoreline. You get 10 1 goal wins in the premier league and you stay up, simple as that. They're well drilled as you'd expect from a Hodgson team.

[PeterWithesShin]

Palace are a great away side as they break with pace and numbers, it's why they scored 3 away to Arsenal, Man City and Liverpool last season and have a better away record record than home record. They tend to struggle more to score at home. They create a fair bit at home but miss so many chances, I think a lot of that is that they can't find a consistent striker since Benteke's first season.

[itmustbe_it is!]

I thought both yellows for Trez were bookings. Not saying the ref wasn't shite but those were 2 of the few things I think he got right.

I think both could be given as yellow but that there were plenty of examples in the game of similar tackles that weren't given, that was my point. I think the ref decided 2/3 of our players were divers before kickoff and wasn't planning on giving them anything and wanted to get them booked as soon as he could.

This is exactly what I think. It's the worst kind of shit refereeing to go into the game with preconceived ideas. The powers that be covering up for him and no-one acknowledging what a shit decision it was, coming as it did after an already abject refereeing display , is just as bad. Refs have been binned from PL before when their performance hasn't even been that shit.