Crystal Palace vs Aston Villa Match Thread

[enigma]

We really need to be picking up points against these teams. Going to be a long hard season if we don't.

[SoccerHQ]

We have a corner!

[ChicagoLion]

England’s Ming’s at fault?

[pelty]

New additions not good enough. Trezeguet is straight rubbish. Jota was anonymous. We have no service to Wesley who I actually think is a decent player. Pathetic.

[TonyD]

Shit.   Come on Villa throw the kitchen sink.
Everton must be garbage...

[shipscat]

So naive there.
Poor defending..Ayew was always going to try to step inside.. Ming's body shape give him a glimmer.

[PeterWithesShin]

Quite disappointed that, imo, we've only played well and on the front foot in 1 game out of 4 so far.

[Flin5tone]

it's going to be a long old season.

absolutely terrible today

[PaulWinch again]

Quite disappointed that, imo, we've only played well and on the front foot in 1 game out of 4 so far.

Yup.

[SoccerHQ]

New additions not good enough. Trezeguet is straight rubbish. Jota was anonymous. We have no service to Wesley who I actually think is a decent player. Pathetic.

Still better than summer 2015....

[Goldie.7]

England’s Ming’s at fault?

Yes.

[Axl Rose]

We're playing Crystal Palace, not Barcelona.

We look like we came for a point, which just isn't the way to play football.

Poor service for Wesley.

Very frustrating.

[Toronto Villa]

This display is so reminiscent of the Villa we all hated the season we went down. Under the cosh from the off, constant mistakes just waiting for their goal to arrive. With 10 men now to get through this will be nothing short of a miracle. The ref hasn’t helped but this has been really dire all round.

Blimey way OTT. We've been competitive in all the games so far so way different to 15/16, just lacking in the final third at times.

Did someone get a little overexcited with their cosy US chat with DS by any chance?

What does it matter about the other games this season? My comment was specific to this game. We are playing a team that will be in that lower half of the table with us and we have looked awful for most of the game.

And as for your last comment I have no idea what that even means. Clearly my chat with Dean Smith in the US hasn’t stopped me for calling his tactical ability out when needed. So I’ll commend him as needed and criticize when deserved. We have been second best all game against Crystal Palace.

I just think you're getting a bit above realistic levels. I remember you referencing Dean's bold "we'll attack everyone home and away" comment.

A newly promoted prem team no matter how much money they've spent simply isn't going to do that.

Today will be fantastic backs to the wall point if we hang on. You need those to stay up just as much as comfortable home wins v Everton.

Which isn't happening now as Ayew just scored.

I’m not getting above anything. We haven’t competed. To stay up we will need to compete against sides like Palace who are absolutely nothing special. It would be completely different if this was Man City away or even a side like Leicester.

And frankly you stating that I said DS would attack is making my point for me. We haven’t attacked. And when tried to we gave the ball away cheaply. It’s put us on the back foot from the start. That’s something that we should have improved upon by this point and at this level whoever we play it’s going to kill us. And as much as the ref is shit our players got booked in part through being naive. So DS should be criticized tonight for not being able to counter Palace. That’s for him to learn and improve upon.

[curiousorange]

I don't know why we're playing so far within ourselves now. Even against Everton I felt we were reactive. Grealish takes a lot of players with him but I don't see much fear in opposition defences scrabbling to cover our other attackers.

[eamonn]

England’s Ming’s at fault?

He is not good enough to play for England yet, I'm surprised Southgate has fallen for the blood and thunder play he's shown in the opening games.