Spurs 3 Aston Villa 1 post match thread.

[Mister E]

It’s very simple.
We need to be physically stronger all over the pitch.
We need to be be faster in possession and with our thinking.
The wingers really do need to grow some balls, some of their tracking back was none existent.

I think today’s game was a ‘welcome to the premier league’ wake up call.
We must learn from it and move on.

Agreed. All part of the steep learning curve that we're on.

[PeterWithesShin]

One thing i'm confident about is that we have a manager who will learn from any mistakes today.

[Toronto Villa]

What absolutely killed us today and especially as the game went on is how much alert, fitter and faster they looked. That’s the big leap to this level. We cannot just hang onto the ball like in the Championship and get dispossessed. And at the top level eventually those mistakes are punished. Often heavily.

And I have no doubt we will learn from this. And the manager will want to.

[Mister E]

I don't agree with the comments that Jack was poor. I think he had a good hour but then, like everyone else, the chasing shadows just wore him down, the mistakes in the last 10-15 mins were of someone who was fucked, not because he isn't good enough. Jota and Kdojia came on and should've been trying to get on the ball and push them deeper, but neither of them got up to the pace of the game and we really needed the breathing space of the ball not coming back so quickly.

Correct

[charleeco7]

They bought on a £100 million pound player who might yet end up at Real Madrid when we were tiring.

We bought on a £1m signing from the blues when our winger tired. That is the reality.

We look like we are miles better coached, have much better shape and some better players than the season we went down. I think McGinn may well get double figures in goals, and Trezeguet could well get 9-10 too on that display. Wesley might get 10-12 when we are on the front foot more.

I thought El Ghazi was desperately poor at times, and Hourihane tired noticeably in the second half.

Overall though - Heaton, Engels, Mings, McGinn, Grealish and Trezeguet looked good enough. We looked a bit overawed too, which coming back up, to a new billion pound stadium, first game, it is hardly a surprise.

We can and we will improve I am sure.
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Pretty much this

[clash city rocker]

We have gone up a division but today was like going up two divisions. Our season will be defined by results against teams like Norwich. Sheffield..Bournemouth..etc

[Ads]

Just back in the car. Thoughts...

Walking to the ground I had a fear we would be rolled over and be 3-0 down at half time. I was worried about the full backs and Hourihane. I also had echos of some absolute abject surrenders here.

First half surprised me, pleasantly. We competed. That's what is key for me, collectively, we competed. We were compact, had good shape and caused problems on the break. Scored a good goal, could have scored a couple more and grew in confidence.

Second half they upped the tempo and this caused us to contract and stretch the space up to Wesley and increase the distance the midfield needed to break out.

We didn't retain territory, the ball came back quicker and we had to work harder in defence. They forced errors. Grealish for one and they got a little bit of luck with the bounce of the ball, but the goals were coming. We couldn't find an answer and realistically, who expected us to?

It's not excusing or triumphing defeat. But since 2010 we've gone one way and they've gone the other. They're a very good side, brought a £60m player in and brought Eriksson off the bench.

We on the other hand have a number of players to blend in. Taylor, Elmo and Hourihane wont finish the season there for example. We'll get wiser and smarter.

Ground was good. Feels oddly compact. Absolute silence though. The old Lane used to be a bit noisy, but this one is a morgue.

[BoVillan esq]

Take the positives into the next game, fact is we held a 1-0 lead for a huge part of the game against one of the best teams in the Premiership, they introduced a world class player, some would say, that changed the dynamics of the game entirely, doubt very much Deano had that one chalked up as a 3 pointer, Jack needs to step up a gear and realise he's playing in the Premiership where a split second decision can be the difference between points or no points. thought we did okay overall, we tired under enormous pressure but you would expect that, we go again against a more balanced side in our favour, I think that's how this season is going to pan out.     

[villa `cross the mersey]

Blimey I took the dog out for a walk at 1-0 up........walked past my local in Formby and it was 1-1 ,fellas in the pub giving me the thumbs up sign .....all well at that point - 15 minutes later I get home to see we've conceded two more .....the joys of being a Villa fan
We really need to be getting results from the likes of Norwich,Sheffield Utd, Bournemouth, Brighton,Burnley ,Watford,Newcastle if we are going to stay up
Today was kind of a " free hit" if you like .....I agree with most about being light up top ....maybe Maupay would have been worth a punt after all
Let's get behind the team against Bournemoth - we need to make Villa Park an intimidating place to come to
UTV

[KRS]

Good effort against a very good team, and it was a typical game of 2 halves...unfortunately we tired badly and we were just not good enough to keep last seasons Champion Leagues finalists out in the second half after Erikson came on.

Sitting back and trying to defend a lead or a draw is not in the DNA of this team, and we struggled to get out of our own half or keep possession. The lack of outlet in midfield and up front was a concern, but you have to put this in to perspective with the team we were playing against. The lack of options up front is a cause for concern as I still don't think Kodjia and Davis are the answer so I suspect we'll strengthen again in January.

We are very much a work in progress and there's still a lot of work to do, but we have to look to the positives of the first half. We won't be playing teams of the quality of Spurs every week, and I think we'll be more than ok against most of the other teams in this league.

Also, the criticism of Jack is very harsh. He got caught in possession just outside the box but we were knackered and sat so deep that he had no outlet so he should have put his laces through it to relieve the pressure. For the other goal, he lost the ball near the touchline on the half way line and both teams had reset formations so there were many opportunities to clear or make a tackle. You can't single out a player for a goal being scored every time possession is turned over and formations are reset. Some ppl on here need to have a word with themselves.

[CT]

Sky have been surprisingly gracious about us.

I thought they'd be ecstatic that one of their top four favourites had won against some upstarts from the Championship.

[SamTheMouse]

Like others, I was surprised Jota didn't start, but when he did come on he looked a bit lost.

Just goes to show, we don't always know best!

[themossman]

Jota potential flat track bully? Can see him having better games where we are attacking and getting more of the ball.

[CT]

One thing i'm confident about is that we have a manager who will learn from any mistakes today.

This.

A year ago, our manager would have been rolling up sleeves, and dusting wasselves down.

Smith, O'Kelly and Terry will analyse and work on specifics during the week. 

[Toronto Villa]

As usual refreshingly honest from Dean. Including at the end about himself.

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