Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - SOLD

[ktvillan]

Hard work doesn’t equate to more productivity, surely that’s the most blatant oxymoron ever illustrated?

Not an oxymoron at all, I'm sure I'm not alone in having witnessed
plenty of people putting in loads of misplaced effort and working loads of hours, yet producing nothing of any value, use or note.  The builders I hired a couple of years ago for example, many Consultants I've worked with for another.         

[JuanMartinez]

We are talking about professional top flight footballers on 50k plus a week, if Trez puts in a shift by running up a flank of 100 yards for 90 minutes it means there has been productivity, even if it means supporting Matty Cash defensively.

I can recommend a good builder btw.

[ktvillan]

We are talking about professional top flight footballers on 50k plus a week, if Trez puts in a shift by running up a flank of 100 yards for 90 minutes it means there has been productivity, even if it means supporting Matty Cash defensively.

I can recommend a good builder btw.

No it doesn't. The objective of him being on the pitch is to produce assists and goals.  He doesn't do that ergo he's not productive, despite the effort of running up and down. I'd argue he doesn't even achieve the objective of protecting Cash, despite all his Mostly pointless running.  And if he's on anything like 50k a week then we're utter mugs because a top flight professional footballer he aint, albeit masquerading as one. And I don't see what salary or status has to to with it anyway, it's irrelevant.

I can recommend a builder to you too.

[JuanMartinez]

You’re a PL player if a PL club is prepared to pay and play you.

He’s on the pitch to do what DS tells him. And he’s work rate defensively is spot on, and only 9 months ago showed how valuable his goals can be.

[ktvillan]

He's a PL player in that literal sense sure, but that doesn't mean he deserves to be.  Do you really think DS tells him to go out on the pitch and create nothing?  What he did 9 months ago in 2 games is neither here nor there now. He's done close to nothing since then and he did close to nothing before then.  I was hoping he'd take a step up after a year to settle in like Luiz, Targett, Konsa and Nakamba seemed to.  He hasn't.  A lot of running around doesn't make up for that, we may as well sign Mo Farah if that's what we want to see.




 

[Toronto Villa]

With Trez and AEG I think we have got precisely what we paid for. Players who if they were as good as some of the expectations are on here would be playing elsewhere at a better club or would have cost us a lot more. At PL level now what we paid for these players gets a player that might have a few good games but they are mainly 6/10 types. Yes of course you can find a gem like Konsa or as many clubs find out you can pay much, much more and get nothing in terms of equivalent value.

So while these players aren’t top level they have both played between them very important roles in our return to the PL and/or survival last season. Eventually they will move on as we get better replacements, but I will be grateful for their page in our history.

[JuanMartinez]

Mo Farah is a long-distance runner, we need players who can run fast over short distances.

The fact that we know Trez has goals in him in only 9 months ago in a poor team, is enough to warrant him given time, especially as his defensive work can’t be dismissed.

[LukeJames]

I'm genuinely baffled at why people "like" Trezeguet, mainly it seems because he runs around a lot.  Work rate doesn't and never has equated to productivity or effectiveness, not in any industry. 

Traore and AEG show glimpses of brilliance, have a good game maybe every 4 or 5 they play in
 

He's got money in the bank for a few (many) cus of last seasons important goals, we will be forever grateful.

But I agree 100% with you, Traore and El-Ghazi are inconsistent at best. Trezeguet is consistent throughout, consistently shite. When he leaves us in the summer I guarantee that he wont play at a level like this again. He will be back to Turkey or Holland, Belgium, Slovakia etc.

[JuanMartinez]

That’s not exactly a prediction of Nostradamus levels, you could argue that half of current foreign PL players next move is back to a European league.

[LukeJames]

I'm not claiming to be some kind of visionary, Trezeguet not being good enough is as blatantly obvious as Bjarnasson not being good enough. Yet many will look past the limitations because they run around like a chihuahua.

[JuanMartinez]

Your now comparing Trez to a player who never even played for us in the PL, scraping the barrel.

[LukeJames]

Weird response. Doesn't matter what level Bjarnasson played at, he was blatantly not good enough but whenever anybody pointed it out they had the whole 'runs around' response thrown at them, same as Trezeguet.

[JuanMartinez]

Weird response. Doesn't matter what level Bjarnasson played at, he was blatantly not good enough but whenever anybody pointed it out they had the whole 'runs around' response thrown at them, same as Trezeguet.

I’m still struggling to ascertain how Bjarnasson a championship player has got anything to do with a PL player who helped maintain our status with crucial goals and this season has worked tirelessly to help us consolidate a mid table position.

[LukeJames]

Weird response. Doesn't matter what level Bjarnasson played at, he was blatantly not good enough but whenever anybody pointed it out they had the whole 'runs around' response thrown at them, same as Trezeguet.

I’m still struggling to ascertain how Bjarnasson a championship player has got anything to do with a PL player who helped maintain our status with crucial goals and this season has worked tirelessly to help us consolidate a mid table position.

Of course you are, I don't doubt that for a second.

[ktvillan]

Mo Farah is a long-distance runner, we need players who can run fast over short distances.

The fact that we know Trez has goals in him in only 9 months ago in a poor team, is enough to warrant him given time, especially as his defensive work can’t be dismissed.

We need players who can run fast over short distances? Do we? Reallly? Ok how about Linford Christie then?  Or any other sprinter with zero ball skills? 

Trez had 3 goals in him 9 months ago. It helped keep us up. Bravo.  What's he done since in those 9 months to warrant his position.  Clue in case you're struggling, which you clearly are: it's slightly more than -1 and it rhymes with cluck ball.