Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - SOLD

[Footy-Vill]

As we have an Egyptian owner I conclude that is why he is around the squad and team and will be for a while as he is hardly a disruptive influence and has the work ethic if a little erratic in ability to be a solid squad player like Elmo has .

Could get several seasons out of him depsite him frustrating the heck out of us in sometimes not finishing glorious opportunities I can't have a word against someone who has coped with the lockdown and situation very professionally throughout the last year away from his homeland in a new country and took Aston Villa to his heart . And was an ultimate reason why helped staying up in Prem. Indebted and to give him a season or two extra is fine but he's not going to be winning us leagues that's ok we know what we get with Trez.

I find him quite inspiring in many ways.
I just wished he finished the chances this season!

[The Edge]

As we have an Egyptian owner I conclude that is why he is around the squad and team and will be for a while as he is hardly a disruptive influence and has the work ethic if a little erratic in ability to be a solid squad player like Elmo has .

Could get several seasons out of him depsite him frustrating the heck out of us in sometimes not finishing glorious opportunities I can't have a word against someone who has coped with the lockdown and situation very professionally throughout the last year away from his homeland in a new country and took Aston Villa to his heart . And was an ultimate reason why helped staying up in Prem. Indebted and to give him a season or two extra is fine but he's not going to be winning us leagues that's ok we know what we get with Trez.

I find him quite inspiring in many ways.
I just wished he finished the chances this season!

I agree with your comments. He's not a champions league winner but he's been a good addition to our squad over the last couple of seasons. His professionalism and work rate can't be questioned.

[ChicagoLion]

I wonder if he would be more use playing deeper and using his energy to close down and harass.

[Risso]

As we have an Egyptian owner I conclude that is why he is around the squad and team and will be for a while as he is hardly a disruptive influence and has the work ethic if a little erratic in ability to be a solid squad player like Elmo has .

Could get several seasons out of him depsite him frustrating the heck out of us in sometimes not finishing glorious opportunities I can't have a word against someone who has coped with the lockdown and situation very professionally throughout the last year away from his homeland in a new country and took Aston Villa to his heart . And was an ultimate reason why helped staying up in Prem. Indebted and to give him a season or two extra is fine but he's not going to be winning us leagues that's ok we know what we get with Trez.

I find him quite inspiring in many ways.
I just wished he finished the chances this season!

I agree with your comments. He's not a champions league winner but he's been a good addition to our squad over the last couple of seasons. His professionalism and work rate can't be questioned.

We will never, ever fully progress if we persist with a wide player who offers as little as Trez. To have no goals and 1 assist from all the games he's played this season is atrocious. 

[JuanMartinez]

Yet we still want zero goals in 4 years KD, to give Ollie a rest.

[Risso]

Playing Davis would be the very last thing I did.

[CT Villan]

For where we are currently at I don't mind Trez at all. He has a great attitude and isn't as bad as some make out. He would be a squad player for me and will eventually be upgraded on as part of our ongoing project to dominate world footie

[Risso]

For where we are currently at I don't mind Trez at all. He has a great attitude and isn't as bad as some make out. He would be a squad player for me and will eventually be upgraded on as part of our ongoing project to dominate world footie

In what way is he not as bad? You surely need one of your attacking players to create or score goals? He does neither, and is partly why we've scored 3 goals in 7 matches.

[CT Villan]

In what way is he not as bad? You surely need one of your attacking players to create or score goals? He does neither, and is partly why we've scored 3 goals in 7 matches.

So by the same theory Watkins, El Ghazi, Davis and Traore must be terrible because they are partly responsible too...and you can add Luiz, McGinn, Cash and Mings to the under-performing list as well. What about Taylor, Engels, Hause and Nakamba - they can't even get a regular spot in the team.

We are a work-in-progress and no where near the finished article. I think the players we have are good for mid-table and many are at, or very near their ceilings. They will be replaced over time as we build towards our goal of being a top team in Europe, but it doesn't happen overnight.

[Risso]

In what way is he not as bad? You surely need one of your attacking players to create or score goals? He does neither, and is partly why we've scored 3 goals in 7 matches.

So by the same theory Watkins, El Ghazi, Davis and Traore must be terrible because they are partly responsible too...and you can add Luiz, McGinn, Cash and Mings to the under-performing list as well. What about Taylor, Engels, Hause and Nakamba - they can't even get a regular spot in the team.

We are a work-in-progress and no where near the finished article. I think the players we have are good for mid-table and many are at, or very near their ceilings. They will be replaced over time as we build towards our goal of being a top team in Europe, but it doesn't happen overnight.

Watkins has done the job asked of him this season. He's a tireless worker, and with a bit more luck he'd be on a few more goals. For a young striker playing his first Premier Legause season, he's done very well.  El Ghazi and Traore certainly share responsibility though, because they're just as crap and unreliable as Trez, albeit in slightly different ways. I'm not sure where the Cash and Mings argument comes in, because their job isn't to score goals. That's an utterly bizarre argument to make.

[The Edge]

In what way is he not as bad? You surely need one of your attacking players to create or score goals? He does neither, and is partly why we've scored 3 goals in 7 matches.

So by the same theory Watkins, El Ghazi, Davis and Traore must be terrible because they are partly responsible too...and you can add Luiz, McGinn, Cash and Mings to the under-performing list as well. What about Taylor, Engels, Hause and Nakamba - they can't even get a regular spot in the team.

We are a work-in-progress and no where near the finished article. I think the players we have are good for mid-table and many are at, or very near their ceilings. They will be replaced over time as we build towards our goal of being a top team in Europe, but it doesn't happen overnight.

Watkins has done the job asked of him this season. He's a tireless worker, and with a bit more luck he'd be on a few more goals. For a young striker playing his first Premier Legause season, he's done very well.  El Ghazi and Traore certainly share responsibility though, because they're just as crap and unreliable as Trez, albeit in slightly different ways. I'm not sure where the Cash and Mings argument comes in, because their job isn't to score goals. That's an utterly bizarre argument to make.

El Ghazi, Trez and Traore aren't crap. We are not the finished article we are a work in progress that's gone from surving by a thread to 9th in one of the toughest leagues on the planet and all three have played a part in our progress. We all know that the club will be upgrading the squad to step up to the next level but they're far from crap in my humble opinion.

[JuanMartinez]

Very good post The Edge.

[Smithy]

In what way is he not as bad? You surely need one of your attacking players to create or score goals? He does neither, and is partly why we've scored 3 goals in 7 matches.

So by the same theory Watkins, El Ghazi, Davis and Traore must be terrible because they are partly responsible too...and you can add Luiz, McGinn, Cash and Mings to the under-performing list as well. What about Taylor, Engels, Hause and Nakamba - they can't even get a regular spot in the team.

We are a work-in-progress and no where near the finished article. I think the players we have are good for mid-table and many are at, or very near their ceilings. They will be replaced over time as we build towards our goal of being a top team in Europe, but it doesn't happen overnight.

Watkins has done the job asked of him this season. He's a tireless worker, and with a bit more luck he'd be on a few more goals. For a young striker playing his first Premier Legause season, he's done very well.  El Ghazi and Traore certainly share responsibility though, because they're just as crap and unreliable as Trez, albeit in slightly different ways. I'm not sure where the Cash and Mings argument comes in, because their job isn't to score goals. That's an utterly bizarre argument to make.

El Ghazi, Trez and Traore aren't crap. We are not the finished article we are a work in progress that's gone from surving by a thread to 9th in one of the toughest leagues on the planet and all three have played a part in our progress. We all know that the club will be upgrading the squad to step up to the next level but they're far from crap in my humble opinion.

I'd go so far as to say that when everyone is fit, we don't have ANYONE in our best 11 who is 'a bit crap'. Our challenge now is the bench and wider squad - being able to make changes during a game that not only don't weaken the 11 on the pitch, but actually improve it.   The way we'll do that is by buying first-11 players and making those in the current 11 squad members. I'm sure Trez will ultimately be one of the early victims in that, but however frustrating he can be, his effort alone will always prevent me from getting on his back too much.  Even if I think we can do better.

[ktvillan]

I'm genuinely baffled at why people "like" Trezeguet, mainly it seems because he runs around a lot.  Work rate doesn't and never has equated to productivity or effectiveness, not in any industry. 

Traore and AEG show glimpses of brilliance, have a good game maybe every 4 or 5 they play in, and contribute a goal or an assist fairly frequently. Trez does not belong in that bracket, I can't remember one game this season where you could say he played well - he was ok against Liverpool when the whole team were on song - and he's got what, one assist all season?

While that little run of 3 goals late last season helped us stay up, he can't dine out on that for ever.  I just see another Brett Holman, Birkir Bjarnasson, Hassan Kachloul type, I just don't see what he offers.
 

[JuanMartinez]

Hard work doesn’t equate to more productivity, surely that’s the most blatant oxymoron ever illustrated?

Back onto Trez, he backed up this graft last season with PL saving goals and granted his goal threat has waned somewhat this season.