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Offline Somniloquism

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2970 on: November 09, 2023, 10:51:28 PM »
Seems to put paid to "it is better in Europe". Although it doesn't seem to help that the sport with a world wide rules office, and area wide rules office, seems to have different rules down the board for when VAR intervenes. For example, although it was funny for the Red Scouse to have their last minute equaliser ruled out, the handball was well down the field and nowhere near the goal, it wasn't even the assist.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2971 on: November 09, 2023, 10:58:37 PM »
Wrong twice tonight?

Wrong to disallow our first "goal" for offside.

Wrong not to call their striker offside for their goal.

And I know they cant call it, but fuck me, giving a corner for Kamara shitting himself in front of goal & hitting the centre of the sun from 3 yards out was just piss poor officiating. The fact that we scored from the resulting corner adds insult to their injury. But they weren't exactly crying for our first "goal" being disallowed, & their goal was offside too, so fuck them...

And did the ref lose his cards or something? Three times in the space of a few minutes we had players running clear into space who were cynically hacked down & not even a flicker of the refs finger towards his cards...

The officials were all shit in the game. Almost balanced itself out, but I wonder if we are going to get a week of whining from Emery & hourly media breaking news reports about the "tragedy" of poor officiating?

Offline Somniloquism

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2972 on: November 10, 2023, 12:16:48 AM »
I think they couldn't believe a professional footballer would sky it from that position so assumed the defender had made the tackle.

Offline Lastfootstamper

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2973 on: November 10, 2023, 12:35:55 AM »
Seems to put paid to "it is better in Europe". Although it doesn't seem to help that the sport with a world wide rules office, and area wide rules office, seems to have different rules down the board for when VAR intervenes. For example, although it was funny for the Red Scouse to have their last minute equaliser ruled out, the handball was well down the field and nowhere near the goal, it wasn't even the assist.

Until now, all I'd seen of the Liverpool one was the little bit of slo-mo. I'd assumed it was pivotal to the goal. I've just watched the highlights. That's a shocker. How's that in VAR's remit?

Offline frank black

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2974 on: November 10, 2023, 08:40:45 AM »
VAR officials having a mare.

Offline Exeter 77

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2975 on: November 10, 2023, 08:45:10 AM »
Having now seen the late disallowed Liverpool goal it reminded me a bit of the one we had chalked off at Old Trafford a couple of years ago. That night VAR actively went looking for a reason to disallow the goal. They just kept going back through the play until they found one.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2976 on: November 10, 2023, 11:25:36 AM »
Having now seen the late disallowed Liverpool goal it reminded me a bit of the one we had chalked off at Old Trafford a couple of years ago. That night VAR actively went looking for a reason to disallow the goal. They just kept going back through the play until they found one.

It was that far back it was at Anfield the other week.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2977 on: November 10, 2023, 11:26:38 AM »
They wouldn’t have looked for any avenue to disallow if it had been 70 mins not 10 seconds from end of injury time

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2978 on: November 10, 2023, 03:05:27 PM »
Very pleasing to hear Moyes call out the scum 6 and the fact that the media make it that they are the only voices heard when VAR goes against them.
He said VAR is shit for everyone not just the "bigger" teams

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2979 on: November 10, 2023, 10:10:27 PM »
Very pleasing to hear Moyes call out the scum 6 and the fact that the media make it that they are the only voices heard when VAR goes against them.
He said VAR is shit for everyone not just the "bigger" teams

This is the point I keep making to my Liverpool supporting mates after their recent "oh woe is me" attitude over a couple of officiating fuck ups against them.

"Welcome to the real fucking world..."

Offline dcdavecollett

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2980 on: November 11, 2023, 01:41:20 AM »
I agree with what Pablo wrote re the officials at Thursday's game.

I would add that I thought the ref was top-notch in refusing to give free-kicks for players falling over due to a strong gust of wind and waving play-on. There's been more of this in the prem this season and I welcome it.

By all means fall over, but if you leave your team with 10 v 11, that's your watch-out.

Offline paul_e

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2981 on: November 11, 2023, 08:11:11 AM »
I agree with what Pablo wrote re the officials at Thursday's game.

I would add that I thought the ref was top-notch in refusing to give free-kicks for players falling over due to a strong gust of wind and waving play-on. There's been more of this in the prem this season and I welcome it.

By all means fall over, but if you leave your team with 10 v 11, that's your watch-out.

Not giving free kicks because players fall over is a good step but needs to combined with giving fouls if the player stays on his feet. Diving is a problem that refs have fed for years by punishing players who try to carry on playing after they're fouled.

Offline Brazilian Villain

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2982 on: November 11, 2023, 09:47:58 AM »
[Not giving free kicks because players fall over is a good step but needs to combined with giving fouls if the player stays on his feet. Diving is a problem that refs have fed for years by punishing players who try to carry on playing after they're fouled.

Agreed.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2983 on: November 11, 2023, 11:49:09 AM »
Same goes when players jump out of the way of a potentially dangerous tackle.

If the tackler is out of control or appearing to show deliberate intent, they should be carded regardless of the fact that the other player managed to get out of the way.

Also, shirt pulling should be penalised more.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2023, 01:10:51 PM by UK Redsox »

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2984 on: November 11, 2023, 12:40:36 PM »
Same goes when players jump out of the way of a potentially dangerous tackle.

If the tackler is out of control or appearing to show deliberate intent to, they should be carded regardless of the fact that the other player managed to get out of the way.

Also, shirt pulling should be penalised more.

This. A lot more. Instant yellow. First time. Every time. As soon as there is no advantage to it, it will stop.

Or at the very least, slow it the fuck right down,

You only have to look at the 'players going down "injured" & having to spend 30 seconds off the pitch' ruling to see how it has helped dramatically decrease that little bit of "game management".

Cynical "taking one for the team" yellows should be an instant red too. Would stop that pretty sharpish if it was more harshly punished.

I have been on the end of that more times than I can remember when I played because I had pace & I can say from first hand experience, it is incredibly frustrating.

Its not much different watching it happen either...


 


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