Aston Villa 2-1 Excellent Ipswich Town Post Match Thread

[stuart445]

remember that film years ago where two people swap bodies

I think that happened to Smith and Bruce after the first month of Smith being here

same players
Same tactics
Same results ( Bruce would often win games against rubbish sides normally hanging on at the end with a one goal lead)
same old same old

where did that fresh young manager go that we first had
I want him back

(If it’s all about Jack being out we are in trouble with this manager....again)

The thing that alarmed me yesterday about Smith was when we conceded rather than putting Jedinak on for Whelan to try and sure things up he replaces Whelan with Kodjia,  had we been playing better opposition that would have caused us all sorts of problems like it did vs Leeds where when it was going wrong Smith just kept putting attackers on.  That sub meant that 6 minutes later Smith had to waste our final sub just correcting that decision.

[Pat McMahon]

The reaction from the defender told the story.  I was in the upper Witton and from Beth minute the ref blew he was holding his head in his hands like a man who knew he'd been caught out. 

To be fair, their penalty shout looked clear too.   

The match had a kind of depressing feel to it.  Difficult to pinpoint why, but it was gloomy.  The weather maybe.

Our march to 6th remains on.

I agree re the depressing feel. The Holte felt flat for a good part of the game. Walking back to the car after the game with my nephew we were talking as much about the negatives as the positives.

[mike]

The reaction from the defender told the story.  I was in the upper Witton and from Beth minute the ref blew he was holding his head in his hands like a man who knew he'd been caught out. 

To be fair, their penalty shout looked clear too.   

The match had a kind of depressing feel to it.  Difficult to pinpoint why, but it was gloomy.  The weather maybe.

Our march to 6th remains on.

I agree re the depressing feel. The Holte felt flat for a good part of the game. Walking back to the car after the game with my nephew we were talking as much about the negatives as the positives.

I was in the middle of the Trinity Road and everyone was moaning like fuck.

[West Derby Villan]

remember that film years ago where two people swap bodies

I think that happened to Smith and Bruce after the first month of Smith being here

same players
Same tactics
Same results ( Bruce would often win games against rubbish sides normally hanging on at the end with a one goal lead)
same old same old

where did that fresh young manager go that we first had
I want him back

(If it’s all about Jack being out we are in trouble with this manager....again)

The thing that alarmed me yesterday about Smith was when we conceded rather than putting Jedinak on for Whelan to try and sure things up he replaces Whelan with Kodjia,  had we been playing better opposition that would have caused us all sorts of problems like it did vs Leeds where when it was going wrong Smith just kept putting attackers on.  That sub meant that 6 minutes later Smith had to waste our final sub just correcting that decision.

I think he follows the adage of "attack is the best form of defence" so he brought Kodjia on to push them back, whereas bringing Jedinak on would of let them push forward. I for one would do anything to keep the ball away from our defenders at the moment

[stuart445]

remember that film years ago where two people swap bodies

I think that happened to Smith and Bruce after the first month of Smith being here

same players
Same tactics
Same results ( Bruce would often win games against rubbish sides normally hanging on at the end with a one goal lead)
same old same old

where did that fresh young manager go that we first had
I want him back

(If it’s all about Jack being out we are in trouble with this manager....again)

The thing that alarmed me yesterday about Smith was when we conceded rather than putting Jedinak on for Whelan to try and sure things up he replaces Whelan with Kodjia,  had we been playing better opposition that would have caused us all sorts of problems like it did vs Leeds where when it was going wrong Smith just kept putting attackers on.  That sub meant that 6 minutes later Smith had to waste our final sub just correcting that decision.

I think he follows the adage of "attack is the best form of defence" so he brought Kodjia on to push them back, whereas bringing Jedinak on would of let them push forward. I for one would do anything to keep the ball away from our defenders at the moment

But the problem with that is he removed any kind of protection the defence had, so when the opposition get the ball there is absolutely nothing stopping them running straight at our terrible defence.

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But they didn't.

[West Derby Villan]

remember that film years ago where two people swap bodies

I think that happened to Smith and Bruce after the first month of Smith being here

same players
Same tactics
Same results ( Bruce would often win games against rubbish sides normally hanging on at the end with a one goal lead)
same old same old

where did that fresh young manager go that we first had
I want him back

(If it’s all about Jack being out we are in trouble with this manager....again)

The thing that alarmed me yesterday about Smith was when we conceded rather than putting Jedinak on for Whelan to try and sure things up he replaces Whelan with Kodjia,  had we been playing better opposition that would have caused us all sorts of problems like it did vs Leeds where when it was going wrong Smith just kept putting attackers on.  That sub meant that 6 minutes later Smith had to waste our final sub just correcting that decision.

I think he follows the adage of "attack is the best form of defence" so he brought Kodjia on to push them back, whereas bringing Jedinak on would of let them push forward. I for one would do anything to keep the ball away from our defenders at the moment

But the problem with that is he removed any kind of protection the defence had, so when the opposition get the ball there is absolutely nothing stopping them running straight at our terrible defence.

We were playing Ipswich, they were crap and they didn't score again. He probably wouldn't have made the same subs if we were playing a top six team

[Richard E]

Funny that, I saw his sister. She begged me to stay with her.

And you replied ‘No, momma, let me go.’

[stuart445]

remember that film years ago where two people swap bodies

I think that happened to Smith and Bruce after the first month of Smith being here

same players
Same tactics
Same results ( Bruce would often win games against rubbish sides normally hanging on at the end with a one goal lead)
same old same old

where did that fresh young manager go that we first had
I want him back

(If it’s all about Jack being out we are in trouble with this manager....again)

The thing that alarmed me yesterday about Smith was when we conceded rather than putting Jedinak on for Whelan to try and sure things up he replaces Whelan with Kodjia,  had we been playing better opposition that would have caused us all sorts of problems like it did vs Leeds where when it was going wrong Smith just kept putting attackers on.  That sub meant that 6 minutes later Smith had to waste our final sub just correcting that decision.

I think he follows the adage of "attack is the best form of defence" so he brought Kodjia on to push them back, whereas bringing Jedinak on would of let them push forward. I for one would do anything to keep the ball away from our defenders at the moment

But the problem with that is he removed any kind of protection the defence had, so when the opposition get the ball there is absolutely nothing stopping them running straight at our terrible defence.

We were playing Ipswich, they were crap and they didn't score again. He probably wouldn't have made the same subs if we were playing a top six team

you mean like Vs Leeds when it was going wrong all he did was put attacking players on instead of trying to stop what was happening? 

So yes he would have made the same subs as he already has done that against a top 6 team.

[West Derby Villan]

remember that film years ago where two people swap bodies

I think that happened to Smith and Bruce after the first month of Smith being here

same players
Same tactics
Same results ( Bruce would often win games against rubbish sides normally hanging on at the end with a one goal lead)
same old same old

where did that fresh young manager go that we first had
I want him back

(If it’s all about Jack being out we are in trouble with this manager....again)

The thing that alarmed me yesterday about Smith was when we conceded rather than putting Jedinak on for Whelan to try and sure things up he replaces Whelan with Kodjia,  had we been playing better opposition that would have caused us all sorts of problems like it did vs Leeds where when it was going wrong Smith just kept putting attackers on.  That sub meant that 6 minutes later Smith had to waste our final sub just correcting that decision.

I think he follows the adage of "attack is the best form of defence" so he brought Kodjia on to push them back, whereas bringing Jedinak on would of let them push forward. I for one would do anything to keep the ball away from our defenders at the moment

But the problem with that is he removed any kind of protection the defence had, so when the opposition get the ball there is absolutely nothing stopping them running straight at our terrible defence.

We were playing Ipswich, they were crap and they didn't score again. He probably wouldn't have made the same subs if we were playing a top six team

you mean like Vs Leeds when it was going wrong all he did was put attacking players on instead of trying to stop what was happening?

No, not at all, when we were playing Ipswich

[stuart445]

remember that film years ago where two people swap bodies

I think that happened to Smith and Bruce after the first month of Smith being here

same players
Same tactics
Same results ( Bruce would often win games against rubbish sides normally hanging on at the end with a one goal lead)
same old same old

where did that fresh young manager go that we first had
I want him back

(If it’s all about Jack being out we are in trouble with this manager....again)

The thing that alarmed me yesterday about Smith was when we conceded rather than putting Jedinak on for Whelan to try and sure things up he replaces Whelan with Kodjia,  had we been playing better opposition that would have caused us all sorts of problems like it did vs Leeds where when it was going wrong Smith just kept putting attackers on.  That sub meant that 6 minutes later Smith had to waste our final sub just correcting that decision.

I think he follows the adage of "attack is the best form of defence" so he brought Kodjia on to push them back, whereas bringing Jedinak on would of let them push forward. I for one would do anything to keep the ball away from our defenders at the moment

But the problem with that is he removed any kind of protection the defence had, so when the opposition get the ball there is absolutely nothing stopping them running straight at our terrible defence.

We were playing Ipswich, they were crap and they didn't score again. He probably wouldn't have made the same subs if we were playing a top six team

you mean like Vs Leeds when it was going wrong all he did was put attacking players on instead of trying to stop what was happening?

No, not at all, when we were playing Ipswich

No but you said he wouldn't do it vs a top 6 team, But he has done it against a top 6 team, when it was going wrong vs Leeds his answer was just to throw on more attacking players.  Which is what he was doing when he put Kodjia on for Whelan yesterday so again he has done it against a top 6 team.

[Leicester_Villian]

Ipswich were impressed with the referee yesterday ......

"Some of the most diabolical refereeing decisions ever made in the Championship yesterday saw Town go down to a single goal, against a very lucky Villa side. They say you make your own luck in football as in life itself but the luck that Aston Villa had yesterday was clearly manufactured by the man in the middle. Referee Keir Stroud has a chequered past when it comes to refereeing Ipswich Town in the Championship and over the years he has often been on the wrong side of the Tractor Boys. He has refereed Town more times than any other ref this season and on the three occasions he has been in charge, Town has suffered at his expense. None more so than yesterday, when he bizarrely gave Villa a penalty when Alan Judge was penalised for apparently pushing John McGinn – who flew through the air as if he was sky diving! I have looked at the evidence again and again and again, and I can see not even the faintest physical contact with the Villa player. Then when Collin Quaner broke clear and rounded the keeper, only for the ball to be swept away from a certain goal, by the arm of Tommy Elphick. Once again Stroud did not favour the Blues and a stonewall penalty was denied.

Throughout the afternoon, Stroud would work as Villa’s extra man and whether it was an advantage that was not played – or a drop ball after a Villa player held his head over the goal line to avoid an Ipswich cross, Stroud was always there to repeatedly make the wrong decisions. He is without a doubt in my view, the worst referee in English football and that really takes some doing! He was the ref I seem to recall who should have sent the keeper off when he clouted McGoldrick last season which resulted in a long term injury.  Stroud’s refereeing record is far from complementary and it does not just impact upon Town."

[Sexual Ealing]

Funny that, I saw his sister. She begged me to stay with her.

And you replied ‘No, momma, let me go.’

I thought that if you had a Champion's League medal, then it meant that you were a gegenpresser. I can smile about it now but at the time it was terrible.

[Legion]

Has Alan Brazil spontaneously combusted yet?

[KevinGage]

It's Paul Lambert. The Man tries to deflect criticism, shortcomings and inadequacies by trying to cover it all up with the whole world being unfair and that his team was brilliant no matter how crap they've been. He did it at Villa,  Wolves, Stoke and now Ipswich.

Aye, the bloke is an absolute shithouse.