Aston Villa v Hull City Post Match Thread

[SashasGrandad]

Few mentions of the shenanigans that led to the 22 man handbag episode, not quite sure what happened but it appeared that Houlihane said he’d give them the ball back from the drop and then didn’t. Anyone closer in the Trinity Lower clear that up?

Yeah it looked like Hull and also the referee were expecting Hourihane to give the drop ball to them. It's not clear why or whether Hourihane reneged on his word. If he did it's a bit shitty to be honest.

Fucks me off, giving the ball back. If you want to give it back, then don't contest it. Otherwise, it's a drop ball, just get on with it, as the people will say these days.

Anyway, when it all kicked off, my focus was down the touchline, getting peeved as once again Taylor ran off the pitch to make himself unavailable as a receiver for a quick throw from the winger, insisting on getting all the way there to take it himself. Every time, he does it. I think he's totally shot.

If a team puts the ball out when an opponent is injured fair enough - give the ball back. BUT this was given for a clash of heads between 2 players - right for ref to check they were OK - then as there was no fault either side it should be a contested drop ball. Modern day players are too cissy to have a go. I think the last decent contested drop ball was Dublin and Savage - no prisoners taken there. May have been the spark for Dion's well placed header in a later game.

Having watched the highlights - it looks like the Hull player backs away hoping Conor will give them the ball. Conor has every right not to give it back. It was not a case of a Villa player being injured when Hull had the ball.

There was one in the Old Firm game recently, it was brilliant, looked like a kickboxing contest!

That's what we want - with Super JM - in for us.

[olaftab]

Few mentions of the shenanigans that led to the 22 man handbag episode, not quite sure what happened but it appeared that Houlihane said he’d give them the ball back from the drop and then didn’t. Anyone closer in the Trinity Lower clear that up?

And that's exactly what Hourihane tried to do but those of us who have been watching him this season fully well know that when our Conor attempts a 40 yard pass he usually finds the wrong player 10 yards away and that was Tammy.

[Villa75]

I think its more to do with smith being a no-name. When Bruce took over he started well and then had a shit period during january and i don't remember everyone picking holes in him because it was Steve Bruce. It does worry me that Smith maybe hasn't got the authority to be given time to sort it out.

Then you have a very short memory, people were picking holes in Bruce right from  the start

I think it happens with all new appointments. Not everybody is going to be happy.

Especially when, despite an "easy run" of fixtures, they only manage 1 win in 9.

[darren woolley]

Poor first half better second half sums it up for me.

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I think its more to do with smith being a no-name. When Bruce took over he started well and then had a shit period during january and i don't remember everyone picking holes in him because it was Steve Bruce. It does worry me that Smith maybe hasn't got the authority to be given time to sort it out.

Then you have a very short memory, people were picking holes in Bruce right from  the start

I think it happens with all new appointments. Not everybody is going to be happy.

Especially when, despite an "easy run" of fixtures, they only manage 1 win in 9.

We haven't had "9 easy games" though. It was suggested that Preston, QPR, Wigan and Hull ought to be easier than what came before.

[Three Spires Villa]

But the games you mention, were easier games

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Yes I'd say so, but the way it's being framed it's as if we've played 9 no-hopers and won 1.

Its been poor form since Stoke, with a decent second half against Swansea and Hullthe only bright spots.

6 points from the bottom clubs in the next 2 and Jack and Axel returning for some trickier 6 pointers and it could well be a month to forget well and truly forgot.

[Villa75]

4 of those 9 games were in our 'easy run'. So, I'm suggesting, 1 win in 9 (and 3 points from 12) should lead to some serious questions being asked.

[Damo70]

4 of those 9 games were in our 'easy run'. So, I'm suggesting, 1 win in 9 (and 3 points from 12) should lead to some serious questions being asked.

To be fair some serious questions are being asked on various H&V threads and I would hope and expect some questions are being asked amongst the management and coaching team and in turn by them of the players.

[simon ward 50]

Apart from John McGinn trying to run the entire midfield on his own, and Tammy, an on loan Chelsea player, there seems no emotion from anywhere.


Looking at the highlights I would agree!

[LukeJames]

Only just saw the Hull goals, fucking hell!

So msny errors in both goals but what has really fucked me off again is the 2nd goal, the ball is played past Hutton and he casually jogs back half arsed, exactly like Taylor against Wigan. Its absolutely unnaceptable, the lack of effort back there is a huge reason why we conceed so many.

[Nunkin1965]

4 of those 9 games were in our 'easy run'. So, I'm suggesting, 1 win in 9 (and 3 points from 12) should lead to some serious questions being asked.

The team is struggling because we are missing our two best players along with a seriously unbalanced squad.

I'm not questioning anything yet as I'm fed up with changing managers every 5 minutes and I think we need to think long term for a change because we're turning into the new Leeds United.

Which means giving the manager this season and next.

[brontebilly]

4 of those 9 games were in our 'easy run'. So, I'm suggesting, 1 win in 9 (and 3 points from 12) should lead to some serious questions being asked.

completely unacceptable, even with the players we had available for those games.

the same thing conveniently happened a few months after Bruce took charge

thankfully we havent brought in donkeys like Lansbury and Hogan this time around...

[Villa75]

Too many 1 win in 9 sequences, and he won't get the rest of this season, let alone the next. Unless the current owners really have no ambition at all.

Jack coming back may be his last roll of the dice. Let's hope it changes our fortunes when he does.

[stuart445]

4 of those 9 games were in our 'easy run'. So, I'm suggesting, 1 win in 9 (and 3 points from 12) should lead to some serious questions being asked.

The team is struggling because we are missing our two best players along with a seriously unbalanced squad.

I'm not questioning anything yet as I'm fed up with changing managers every 5 minutes and I think we need to think long term for a change because we're turning into the new Leeds United.

Which means giving the manager this season and next.

Oh my god just because people are questioning Smith doesn't mean they want him sacked.

Honestly this attitude that if you question Smith then you clearly want him sacked is getting ridiculous. You do understand that people can question Smiths decisions and still want him as our manager.